Please delete this if I’m in the wrong sub to ask this!
I’m looking to learn a new language without relying on data harvesting apps. Is there a privacy friendly platform I can use, or a FOSS app (android)?
Try to decide what your threat model is. A language learning app (except harvesting traditional device id and such) doesn’t reveal very important info to anyone.
The only know which language you learn and your approximate level. Sure that’s better if there’s a more private way of doing it, but the core principle of learning a language doesn’t reveal very much.
Anki with deck cards already made, for vocabulary. Youtube video to train sentences (type : easy + name of the language)
A real course with a real human teacher.
Wouldn’t this require sharing information with the school that organizes the course and any vendors that support them? Schools, payment processors and student information systems eventually sell or leak data.
Buy a book and learn with a compiler that was built before the spy craze.
A book with CDs to listen to.
Babel mini app in delta chat ;p
Man I love those apps in Delta, finally some functionality that’s actually useful for once.
- Pimsleur language learning ( learn at instinct-level, not the prompted-stuff or memorizations that many other language trainings work at )
- Tandem app ( probably not great for privacy, been awhile since I tried it ), you help someone learn your language, & they help you learn the target language one you want
- simplified short-stories, books of collections of the things…
- TV in the target-language
- songs because they wire-up your other-hemisphere ( right-hemisphere for the 85% of people who have language in the left ) with the language, & that reinforces the language’s patterning
- flashcards for the stuff that actually requires you to remember specific arbitrary things, like difficult words, or whatever, for random moments throughout the day
Some of this I got from a book by a guy who knew … 29 or something? … languages & worked for the CIA.
Other stuff ( songs ) from science news, & my discovering that language-destroyed-by-stroke people could sometimes still communicate through picking a song which had the idea they were trying to communicate…
I have a bad time learning anything through hearing, though, so … language-learning seems itself to be kinda broken ( I learned English before anything, & it was my 2nd wave of braindamage which took much learning from my life, not the autism 1st-wave ).
These are the best tools I know-of.
I wish I could learn languages.
I wish everybody learned other-languages, to understand just how diverse humankind’s meanings can be…
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songs because they wire-up your other-hemisphere ( right-hemisphere for the 85% of people who have language in the left ) with the language, & that reinforces the language’s patterning
That’s something I’ve never thought about. Interesting idea, I’m gonna try adding that to my study routine.
Most privacy-friendly way would probably be using a textbook.
Thank you. Feel a bit stupid for not thinking of this. Don’t suppose you have a recommendation for a book on learning Spanish?
Go to your local college or university bookstore, see what they’re using, then go and find it cheaper somewhere else.
you can’t learn how to pronounce correctly through a textbook. You need hispanophone connections, environments withWhom/where you can’t speak english
Not really, my only period of interaction with the language started and ended in high school. I’m sure you’ll find tonnes of recommendations in language-learning communities on the internet though.
Anki is an offline-first flashcard program that I use along with other methods.
I will look into this, thanks for taking the time to make a recommendation :)
Anki + Yomitan is the goat. Download some dictionaries of your target language, load them into Yomitan, and now you can search words on any website with selectable text and instantly make a flashcard out of the word. Watching a video in browser? Use asbplayer to load subtitles onto the video/movie and select the text from that too. Wanna watch not in browser? Use mpvacious with mpv.
Find yourself a card format you like and some cute addons (I use Ankimon [Pokemon]) for Anki so you don’t fall into that “it looks so dull!” trap because the SRS system it uses is no joke. I have years old vocab on there that I still remember, and medical students aren’t joking when they say it saved them.
I just love this app so much.
Date a native speaker of that language for a while.
I tried, but my wife put a stop to it.
Actually not bad advice if they are into you badly speaking their language to them at first 😂
Textbooks and teachers.
The fastest way to learn a language is with the comprehensible input method. You watch videos, all of which are 100% in the target language. The early videos are easy, involving simple things, and using props and gestures to provide the context for understanding. As you learn more, the videos progress and become more difficult. It’s amazing how quickly you pick up things and retain them. There is a lot of comprehensible input material for Spanish, French, and English, but you can use children’s television shows like Peppa Pig where there isn’t specific material for the target language. Here is a beginner video in Spanish.
I second Dreaming Spanish. OP could use Materialous/NewPipe or whatever method they use to watch YT anonymously. Anki also works.
Anki
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Yeah honestly, there’s no replacement for textbooks, paper and pencil when it comes to learning a new language
I mean, to each their own, but when I was learning Japanese, I did just that: I immersed myself into the language with as many senses (?) as possible. Reading, writing, listening, imitating (called “shadowing”), literally talking to myself, plastering my walls with glossary and example sentences, forcing myself to read them out loud every time I would pass by one of the words or sentences hanging from my walls. Right until I realized that I had hit a barrier that could only be overcome by moving - at least temporarily - to Japan, which I did, but that’s another story.
You can try Language Transfer
It’s completely free. Free (and ad free) iOS or android app, free audio file downloads. There’s also a course on music theory.
