Regardless of the distribution, would it be possible to have a phone that can be simplified to include only the features you want? For example, I would only want a calendar, notes, a calculator, calls and messages. I wouldn’t want a browser, an app store or any other way to easily install them. Is this possible on a Linux mobile distro? Does it require a lot of work, like making a specific distro for it?

Linux feels like a great option for this because it can leave enough freedom to dumb down what you don’t need while also keeping a big level of customization, not everyone needs are the same regarding to dumbphones

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    Yes, I have a PinePhone and PinePhone Pro both with PostMarketOS so doing this is as easy as few sudo apk add packagename or sudo apk del firefox.

    Now… if you want a daily driver then as few others hinted at, it’s much harder. I would instead, if deGoogle Android is an acceptable compromise for you, get a 2nd hand Pixel 8 or above, install GrapheneOS on it, remove the browser and that’s pretty much it already since it doesn’t come with an app store or equivalent. Well, there’s the GrapheneOS equivalent but there are ~10 apps on it at most last time I checked.

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      Can you remove the browser on GOS? When I was about to switch, the people on the fora were looking down on those who wanted to remove the browser like “self control” or “that is not GOS point”

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        Right, you actually can’t AFAIK but you can disable it.

        It’s indeed not the point. GrapheneOS focus is on security. If you want to have complete control you’d better go with a Linux proper phone but AFAICT, unless you are fine with ~4hrs battery and/or can spend 1000€ on a device that very people have, it’s not for most.

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        It’s a pragmatic compromise. The assumption is that Google is not literally evil, solely a very large advertisement company which subsidize very cool hardware in order to sell more ads. It’s the same principle as using a rooted Meta Quest when one doesn’t even have a Facebook or WhatsApp account.

        I imagine than everybody who is into that situation will move to Motorola or Valve Frame when those will become available. Until then the bet is that the hardware does not have hardware backdoors because so far nobody disclosed any.

        If you really are into trusting hardware I recommend checking https://precursor.dev/ and similar initiatives.

        I did mention Linux phones too but again that’s not for everyone.

        IMHO it’s much better to use a GrapheneOS deGoogle Android device today, knowing the limitation, than using a Googled Android device today, Pixel or not, and complaining about all the limitations about it while waiting for a theoretical better solution that is simply not yet available.

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        Who knows if this is true because I don’t have the expertise to understand if it is or not, but supposedly the explanation given by the GrapheneOS team is that the pixel phones were the only phones that had the hardware security strong enough to provide the security model GrapheneOS wanted.

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          I know the reasoning, it does make sense in a way, if you trust Google. But that’s kind of the point, you can’t truly look into their hardware, who knows what is within the chips, potentially not even accessible by the OS. I wouldn’t trust the firmware made by Google if getting away from Google because it is evil is literally the point.