School computers are riddled with spyware & proprietary software, the fact that they use windows is bad enough, but then you are forced to use edge or chrome and other proprietary software and often you are blocked from installing open source alternatives like librewolf or duck duck go may be blocked.
What I am asking is, how can we get around this, do i just need to bring my own laptop using FOSS privacy respecting software. or is there another way around this. Thanks for the help.
It’s not your computer; it’s their computer. Do not ever forget this.
So if there’s anything personal you want to use a computer for, don’t use their machine for it. Use your own.
you dont. but worry not, having a second “digital identity” for school and work, that has no connection to your private one is actually a pretty solid way to stay anonymous. false data is less identifying than no data at all
Yeah, as tempting as it is to personalize the work / school computer, it’s probably better to not mix the two.
Most likely can’t and shouldn’t bother. Keep your private stuff on your private devices.
But if you really really want to, go to IT well prepared with all the changes you want to make and see if they allow it.
This is the correct answer. It may be worthwhile to advocate for more privacy conscious IT in public institutions but you’ll be up against a huge amount of corporate lobbying.
unless you’re literally allergic to proprietary software, keep your accounts separate from that machine. avoid being linked from that device to your identity.
if you do have an allergy to proprietary software, we have bigger things to worry about.
unless you’re literally allergic to proprietary software
You’ll need a note from your doctor though.
That would be such a XXIst century diagnosis. 🤭
You don’t.
Seprate your work life and your personal life.
There’s nothing wrong with advocating for FOSS alternatives; but you don’t get to decide what you can or cannot use on work devices, that’s up to your employer. You should not be entering personal info/performing personal tasks on work devices.
If you’re unwilling to perform work with the tools (software) your employer provides/requires, find a new job. Refusing to do the work or tampering with the equipment provided is a great way to get fired.
For school; personal laptop. Or again strictly school tasks on their devices.
I have run into this issue of needing Microslop for school. I’m allowed to use my own hardware if I install their spyware. So I have two setups:
Portable: Win10 on an old lenovo laptop that just runs their tracking software. I can access the sharepoint, outlook and teams with LibreWolf on that machine, if I must.
When at home I have a virtual machine that also runs Win10 for their spyware. I use LibreWolf on fedora for the sharepoint, outlook and teams.
I’m dead scared of even thinking of using my corporate phone or laptop for personal use. I think i’ve never done a personal search or sent a personal email or even made a personal call using company devices. I kown they are logging every single thing i do because they’ve even told us in our annual cybersecurity training. Just run two seperate and parallel lives ;-)
Can you use your own computer without needing to install spyware?
If using your own computer isn’t an option, best practice is to use a school/work computer for school/work and have a second computer for personal use. Same goes for a work phone, use it for work only.
That’s the point of school and company computers. To keep all the nasty software you need for your work away from your personal laptop, which you’ll want to buy yourself.
No amount of privacy-friendly software you install on top of Windows thoroughly compromised with corporate MDM is going to save you.
If you must use your personal machine during work hours, tether it to your phone’s data connection or use VPN if it is allowed.
the only thing you can do is just using your personal computer. what’s what i’ve been doing in school for years.
If the company or school isn’t more privacy-conscious, it’s their problem, not the employee’s or student’s. Naturally if they don’t use these devices for private matters. You can only warn of these problems and how to alleviate or solve them, if they do not pay attention, you only have to shrug your shoulders.
I cannot stress enough how bad of an idea it is to try and use a boot or portable apps usb.
Schools and companies are generally very alert about that kind of thing due to many many high profile incidents of malware, ransomware, data exfiltration etc, and also all the movies and tv shows.
Bring your own device is the only way. Bring your own network is often a necessity, so be prepared to tether your phone to your device for internet access.
You also probably want to look normal too. Swallow your pride and use a mac when you do this and no one will bat an eye. Break out the duct taped together thinkpad at your own risk.
Man, back in my day I used to drop portable apps (I was one of the devs) on our network shares and use it that way because it didn’t work from a flash drive. Bur I helped IT so even when they found out many months later, they left me alone.
I got banned from the school computers one year back in high school for the “crime” of using portable apps off a flash drive! This was back when IE6 was the standard and I wanted to use Firefox. Maybe 2006? Sounds funny now in retrospect but it was pretty annoying at the time.
Bring your own laptop and don’t connect it to the network if possible. You have very little control over how those devices are managed, so the best you can do is either use them strictly for school work only, or avoid using them at all.
You can discuss with your IT department or bring your own, I don’t see many alternatives to those two situations.
Only possible way would be booting into a USB drive running Linux or something. But BIOS is almost certainly locked down so I doubt it. It would also run like shit (but so does windows with 7 different scanners running amirite?)
