• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    1 hour ago

    As others have mentioned you are going to have a tough time seeing much on the web without it but I guess it would be a good way to see the web with like zero corpo stuff.

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    Just blocking the domain won’t do you any good. Half the internet is behind Cloudflare. Even some Lemmy servers use it.

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    Lots of stuff breaks when you block cloudflare so a better way to avoid its data collection is to use a vpn and clear your browsing data.

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    I have the detect cloudlflare firefox extension. I avoid sites that use it. Haven’t tried blocking it completely yet but I could probably manage.

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    If you set up a website with cloudflare, their user interface has a lot of tracking stuff on by default to be injected into it. It also encourages you to use their https service where the traffic is not actually encrypted from the user to your server, but man-in-the-middle’d by cloudflare. But the interface makes it super easy to do and refers to it like a good and normal default option.

    So yeah I think they really want your data.

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      4 hours ago

      Even if you don’t use Cloudflare’s https they still need the private keys to work. So they can read all traffic either way.

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        I’ll be more specific: if you set up a website on your own server, and use Cloudflare as a reverse proxy. If you do SSL yourself, on your own server, then the traffic is encrypted between the client and your server, and therefore Cloudflare cannot read it, they do not have the encryption keys, even though the traffic is passing through them. If you use Cloudflare’s https solution, Cloudflare provides the keys and decrypts the traffic before passing it on.

        The former is the more secure way to do it, but they encourage you to do it the way where they get to read all the traffic, which is pretty shady of them, because if a website has https people assume that means it is end to end encrypted to the website itself, but that assumption is being violated here and a user has no way to know.

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          How can they act as a proxy if they can’t terminate the connection? Or what service does that offer?

          I guess they could filter out some connections based on IP addresses. But is that enough for some customers? Or am I overlooking something?

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            How can they act as a proxy if they can’t terminate the connection?

            Why wouldn’t they be able to? The DNS record points to Cloudflare’s IP, they forward the traffic to your server’s IP. This is a common choice for self hosting setups because it’s a free service and it is a way to avoid pointing a DNS record at your home IP, which you may not want everyone to know. That doesn’t require decrypting the traffic.

            How this squares with the ddos protection and caching stuff, I’m not sure, but I know I set up SSL locally, did not give Cloudflare the keys, turned off all the options for them to handle it, and everything seems to work.

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        That’s true if you’re proxying your traffic for DDoS protection, but you don’t need to do that to use them as a DNS, if you must.

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    If you are actively blocking Cloudflare and you are still able to use the web services you rely on then I am genuinely jealous of you.

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    16 hours ago

    Reminds me of when my stepmother turned off the router because she didn’t want incoming radiation and then couldn’t figure why her emails were not arriving.

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    I think I’d rather practice other anti-tracking or anti-fingerprinting measures rather than blocking one of the largest CDN’s in the world. But yes, they do track.

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      I don’t think OP would be able to use the modern internet lol

      If they still can then goddam please write a tutorial

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        Well you can use the modern internet. Just not most of it. You would be only looking at the personal indie web at that point.

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          A lot of personal indie web uses CF because it’s free and manages usage spikes and your home server going offline for whatever reason.

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      Privacy policies doesnt mean anything, if it’s a US based company. Doesnt matter if the servers are in the EU. They steal it anyway.

      Look US Cloud Act.

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        They do; foreign companies must comply with the GDPR when processing or storing European citizen’s personal data.

        See: GDPR Art. 3