• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    They won by focusing on fighting corruption instead of culture wars. I hope the Democrats are paying attention. They’re probably not though.

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      The only party running on culture wars are the Republicans. By going around fear mongering over shit the Democrats essentially never bring up.

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      Not focusing on culture wars would mean having to talk about wealth inequality, quality of life, low salaries, high housing prices and so on, which wouldn’t please the Owner Class who amongst other things also own the party.

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      the democrats are already trying to piss off the coalition they built to pass redistricting in virginia. it’s pretty clear to me at this point in my life that the democrats are the cuck chair party. they don’t want the republicans to stop fucking america, and they don’t really want to join in. they just want to watch from as close as possible

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        Most Dems never even run on these topics either. Its Republicans being all “Democrats want to forcibly make everyone a black trans woman!”

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        The Democrats want to prop up glass cliff candidates with the most reprehensible views. They will wave a pride flag in June before an election, but then vote to strip funding for queer youth centers. In Ohio back in 2024, Sherrie Brown ran for Senate on how he would do tax cuts to “creat jobs” keep men out of women’s sports, and help Trump protect the border. Unsurprisingly he lost because he has no actual beliefs and wanted to appeal to non-existent centrists that what conservative policies but don’t want to vote Republican.

        He could have ran on punishing corruption, ending lobbying, and guaranteeing workers rights, but he decided to try to run as a Conservative democrat and got whooped. Now he is trying to run for Senate again in the exact same platform and we are all gonna have to suffer because no one wants a candidate that want to implement 50% of the Republican platform.

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          glass cliff usually refers to women , because they can be taken the blame more easily if not all the blame than men. AKA harris and hillary, there was no way in hell people are going to choose women no matter what as potus.

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        You keep the progressive values, but you keep the center of attention over the blatant corruption and show a genuine commitment to correct it. Otherwise the conservatives will hijack the attention away from the corruption again and continue the perception that “either side will sell the country to billionaires anyway”.

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        Focusing on the issues that matter to voters does not mean pandering to racists or homophobes. The Democrats can both maintain their core values and win an election by focusing on the issues that will actually win them votes. Focusing too much on culture wars is a gift to the Republicans as it allows them to distract from the issues and instead indulge in scare mongering and lies.

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          newsom is solely pandering the culture war team, racists, homophobes and billionaires. i suspect dnc will likely be pushing him solely. mark kelly maybe considering it, but he hasnt made anything official.

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      Maybe the new Hungarian government won’t be left economically but at least they won’t be progressive on social issues, huh? Keep on winning, liberals. You won’t hear a peep on this from EU starting now though so it’s all good.

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        https://magyartisza.hu/program

        Their program is available for all to see, you don’t have to guess.

        • Reduce minimum wage tax from 15% to 9%.
        • Lower income tax for workers earning below the median wage.
        • Tax the super-rich with a 1% annual wealth tax on assets over 1 billion HUF.
        • Cut VAT on firewood, healthy food, and prescription medicines.
        • Double family allowances, maternity support, and childcare benefits.
        • Guarantee a minimum pension of 120,000 HUF per month.
        • Provide “Pensioner SZÉP Cards” with up to 200,000 HUF in annual support.
        • Increase home care fees by 50% for family caregivers.
        • Give a “Newborn Kit” worth 50,000 HUF to every baby.
        • Increase pay by 25% for social sector and educational assistants.
        • Strengthen union rights.
        • Enforce equal pay for equal work between men and women.
        • Maintain tuition-free first university degrees.
        • Build social rental housing and more student dormitories.
        • End period poverty by providing free hygiene products in state schools.
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          Liberal populism - where are taxes to offset those tax cuts? They’re going to be promised but never happen and it’s going to end up with privatisation of public services. It’s how neoliberals work in Europe. That’s what made Orban and similar autocrats in the first place and why he will be back. I’m happy to take bets if needed, I’ve seen this way too many times already to fall for it again.

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            You know you I linked the full pdf? Seeing you being an autist as well, I assumed you value veracity over confabulation.

            The answer is very plain: tax credits, recover 8000 billion frozen eu funds, 2000B annually, not spending thosands of billions on state propaganda, stopping overpriced (and rigged) puplic procurements, recovering the privatised oligarch funds etc.

            The annual super rich wealth tax is an inflow.

            But most importantly, cutting back on the servicing of debt. Hungary has very espensive debt, even when its relative value to GDP is normal. And this debt factor hugely depends on investor confidence, which is very positive if you look at the currency valuation as a proxy.

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              I was naive like that too, now wait and see what happens in reality. This fixation on debt in nominal values is a tell for neoliberal talk - in reality that debt will balloon even more with the tax cuts and soon austerity will be needed (surprise!).

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            Tax the super rich was point number 3. Although it should be more like 90% tax on anything earned over 1 billion.

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              You’re treating electoral promises like something serious but it’s Eastern Europe and there’s no consequences to lying in politics. Never listen to what politicians say and just monitor what they do unless you want to be disappointed over and over again. The end goal of pro business parties is privatisation of public services, always.

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                  If you ever need someone to say „told you so” in the future you know where to look. This is naïveté is why people like Orban will return.

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                    He already has returned. This was it after losing to MSZP 4 terms ago. You don’t have to tell me more, as an outsider you are working with very limited information.