Genuinely the most idiotic removed from history and reality take I’ve ever seen. You love the Chinese people so much you want us to suffer like the Soviets. To collapse be balkanised and have millions pushed to death prostitution and trafficking. You are evil I hope you understand that.
You just put a whole bunch of words in my mouth that I never said. You are a lying racist bigot. I am actually pretty neutral, you’re taking the dark side.
I desire freedom for my Chinese brothers and sisters, just as they did in 1989 when I watched them get murdered on the news. Not what the US claims as Freedom™. More like what the Six Nations described. Real freedom. Just like I want the US government to burn to the ground since it is incapable of reform, I want the CCP to either actually reform and place the citizens over power and wealth, or burn that shit to the ground as well.
That’s what I want. Not the lies and fever dreams that you are preaching.
You are a complete fucking idiot detached entirely from reality and specifically the current events of China. You really should actually investigate before speaking you giant embarrassment of a human being. I hope you eventually mature past the age of 12 and come to terms with reality or if that is impossible shutting up and fucking off works too.
Why would I listen to a known liar, government shill, but I repeat myself, and an enemy of the people?
You are an indoctrinated lying racist bigot. You help the CCP export their version of authoritarianism. I don’t help the US with theirs or Russia with theirs. Be better.
Holy chauvinism. Just call me the slurs you want to call me you don’t need to dance around it like this
enemy of the people
Honestly laughable considering I stand alongside 95+% of mainlanders in my support for the current government. It seems you like projection an awful lot.
Harvard is a Chinese government shill now sorry I didn’t realise. You are such an unserious person it’s actually hilarious. Just admit you hate Chinese people instead of hiding behind this pseudo progressive nonsense calling me names that don’t make sense I have not been racist or bigoted I clearly stand with the people and you have yet to point to any lies you’ve just thrown a tantrum shit your pants and cried about how it’s my fault.
I desire freedom for my Chinese brothers and sisters, just as they did in 1989 when I watched them get murdered on the news. Not what the US claims as Freedom™. More like what the Six Nations described. Real freedom. Just like I want the US government to burn to the ground since it is incapable of reform, I want the CCP to either actually reform and place the citizens over power and wealth, or burn that shit to the ground as well.
nothing is going to change if you can’t see past the propaganda you’re parroting here.
Nothing is changing anyway. I’m not parroting propaganda, I’ve had 45 years to come to my OWN conclusions.
The only thing that will fix this world is if all the governments are completely reformed to work for the people, and combined into one world government so we can work together, or abolish all governments beyond the local level.
The PRC is already such a state, and has been so since 1949. The establishment of socialism is via revolutionary means. The path forward is for the creation of more socialist states, not overthrowing existing ones.
The PRC only exists in Taiwan. The CCP is exporting their version of authoritarianism, just like the US and Russian Federation are doing with their versions.
Since all three exist that is proof that all governments will go authoritarian once they have enough power. Hence, reform all governments into a single unified world government that is focused on people not power, or abolish all high level government.
No, the capitalist dictatorship in Taiwan that murdered all of the communists and local resistance when the KMT moved in in the White Terror isn’t anywhere close to a People’s Republic.
The CCP is exporting their version of authoritarianism, just like the US and Russian Federation are doing with their versions.
Utter nonsense. The CPC is the party in power in a socialist state, where the working classes use their authority against capitalists. The US Empire and the Russian Federation are both dictatorships of capital, like Taiwan, where authority is wielded against the working classes.
Since all three exist that is proof that all governments will go authoritarian once they have enough power. Hence, reform all governments into a single unified world government that is focused on people not power, or abolish all high level government.
Nonsense. All states wield authority, this is partially correct, but they do so in service of a definite class. In the PRC, those classes are the working classes.
Marx would agree with me here.
No he would not, Marx viewed authority by its class character, not in a liberal view that divorces the state from class struggle. Don’t invoke Marx while erasing class struggle.
time alone doesn’t inoculate you from propaganda. referring to events you didn’t witness firsthand, in a country you don’t live in, with certainty about what you saw on western news – that’s not firsthand knowledge, it’s a mediated narrative you’ve absorbed as fact. propaganda doesn’t require lies; it just needs selective framing that feeds your outrage. wanting all governments to “burn to the ground” isn’t independent thinking – it’s a script that’s been handed to you, and your inability to see that is exactly how propaganda works.
I didn’t. I’ve been employed and worked with people who saw that shit first hand. I saw that shit second hand on the news.
There’s a ton of propaganda over what happened during those weeks. I am repeating first hand accounts. The people who told me what they saw are either really good liars, because they couldn’t have known each other in the US, or they told me what they saw.
I’ve not been handed a script, the fact that you think I have indicates that there is a fundamental problem with the system
you trust a handful of self-selected people who told you stories you already wanted to believe. that’s not evidence – it’s confirmation bias. first-hand accounts can be wrong, embellished, or shaped by their own trauma and exposure to propaganda before they ever left. you’re not a historian or a judge; you’re someone who listened to stories that matched what you saw on tv and decided they must be the whole truth. the fact that you can’t imagine any other explanation – that you’re certain everyone who disagrees is just “the system” lying to you – is the fundamental problem. that’s exactly what being propagandized looks like from the inside.
Genuinely the most idiotic removed from history and reality take I’ve ever seen. You love the Chinese people so much you want us to suffer like the Soviets. To collapse be balkanised and have millions pushed to death prostitution and trafficking. You are evil I hope you understand that.
You just put a whole bunch of words in my mouth that I never said. You are a lying racist bigot. I am actually pretty neutral, you’re taking the dark side.
Oh you’re even more idiotic then I thought advocating for the destruction of China and the Chinese people without even realising it.
Or you’re a liar neither looks good for you.
I desire freedom for my Chinese brothers and sisters, just as they did in 1989 when I watched them get murdered on the news. Not what the US claims as Freedom™. More like what the Six Nations described. Real freedom. Just like I want the US government to burn to the ground since it is incapable of reform, I want the CCP to either actually reform and place the citizens over power and wealth, or burn that shit to the ground as well.
That’s what I want. Not the lies and fever dreams that you are preaching.
You are an indoctrinated lying racist bigot.
You are a complete fucking idiot detached entirely from reality and specifically the current events of China. You really should actually investigate before speaking you giant embarrassment of a human being. I hope you eventually mature past the age of 12 and come to terms with reality or if that is impossible shutting up and fucking off works too.
Why would I listen to a known liar, government shill, but I repeat myself, and an enemy of the people?
You are an indoctrinated lying racist bigot. You help the CCP export their version of authoritarianism. I don’t help the US with theirs or Russia with theirs. Be better.
Holy chauvinism. Just call me the slurs you want to call me you don’t need to dance around it like this
Honestly laughable considering I stand alongside 95+% of mainlanders in my support for the current government. It seems you like projection an awful lot.
Levels of government and public opinion The survey team found that compared to public opinion patterns in the U.S., in China there was very high satisfaction with the central government. In 2016, the last year the survey was conducted, 95.5 percent of respondents were either “relatively satisfied” or “highly satisfied” with Beijing. In contrast to these findings, Gallup reported in January of this year that their latest polling on U.S. citizen satisfaction with the American federal government revealed only 38 percent of respondents were satisfied with the federal government.
Holy projection.
You just proved my point.
You are an uneducated indoctrinated lying racist bigot, a government shill, and an enemy of the people.
Harvard is a Chinese government shill now sorry I didn’t realise. You are such an unserious person it’s actually hilarious. Just admit you hate Chinese people instead of hiding behind this pseudo progressive nonsense calling me names that don’t make sense I have not been racist or bigoted I clearly stand with the people and you have yet to point to any lies you’ve just thrown a tantrum shit your pants and cried about how it’s my fault.
nothing is going to change if you can’t see past the propaganda you’re parroting here.
Nothing is changing anyway. I’m not parroting propaganda, I’ve had 45 years to come to my OWN conclusions.
The only thing that will fix this world is if all the governments are completely reformed to work for the people, and combined into one world government so we can work together, or abolish all governments beyond the local level.
The PRC is already such a state, and has been so since 1949. The establishment of socialism is via revolutionary means. The path forward is for the creation of more socialist states, not overthrowing existing ones.
The PRC only exists in Taiwan. The CCP is exporting their version of authoritarianism, just like the US and Russian Federation are doing with their versions.
Since all three exist that is proof that all governments will go authoritarian once they have enough power. Hence, reform all governments into a single unified world government that is focused on people not power, or abolish all high level government.
Marx would agree with me here.
No, the capitalist dictatorship in Taiwan that murdered all of the communists and local resistance when the KMT moved in in the White Terror isn’t anywhere close to a People’s Republic.
Utter nonsense. The CPC is the party in power in a socialist state, where the working classes use their authority against capitalists. The US Empire and the Russian Federation are both dictatorships of capital, like Taiwan, where authority is wielded against the working classes.
Nonsense. All states wield authority, this is partially correct, but they do so in service of a definite class. In the PRC, those classes are the working classes.
No he would not, Marx viewed authority by its class character, not in a liberal view that divorces the state from class struggle. Don’t invoke Marx while erasing class struggle.
time alone doesn’t inoculate you from propaganda. referring to events you didn’t witness firsthand, in a country you don’t live in, with certainty about what you saw on western news – that’s not firsthand knowledge, it’s a mediated narrative you’ve absorbed as fact. propaganda doesn’t require lies; it just needs selective framing that feeds your outrage. wanting all governments to “burn to the ground” isn’t independent thinking – it’s a script that’s been handed to you, and your inability to see that is exactly how propaganda works.
I didn’t. I’ve been employed and worked with people who saw that shit first hand. I saw that shit second hand on the news.
There’s a ton of propaganda over what happened during those weeks. I am repeating first hand accounts. The people who told me what they saw are either really good liars, because they couldn’t have known each other in the US, or they told me what they saw.
I’ve not been handed a script, the fact that you think I have indicates that there is a fundamental problem with the system
you trust a handful of self-selected people who told you stories you already wanted to believe. that’s not evidence – it’s confirmation bias. first-hand accounts can be wrong, embellished, or shaped by their own trauma and exposure to propaganda before they ever left. you’re not a historian or a judge; you’re someone who listened to stories that matched what you saw on tv and decided they must be the whole truth. the fact that you can’t imagine any other explanation – that you’re certain everyone who disagrees is just “the system” lying to you – is the fundamental problem. that’s exactly what being propagandized looks like from the inside.