PS. This is not a critique to Debian-based distros. And i’m not suggesting you to skip Ubintu for Arch either. Arch is a bit advanced and not too easy to new users, so that won’t do for some people…

… just install Linux Mint instead.

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        As someone who uses arch, its just stability. Arch is great for a hobby, if you want to do work, use fedora. Its so much simpler. That being said, I love arch because of the tinkering, and that lack of tinkering is why I switched off fedora.

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          I “do work” just fine on Arch but maybe I’ve just gotten used to the quirks and the DIY aspect of it. None of it is an obstacle to productivity anymore.

          I do realize I’m not the average person and am some kind of freak that likes to take working stuff apart and put it back together for funsies.

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              That’s what I’m trying to say though, I’m at the point to where it’s not a waste of time for me because I know immediately what to do if something goes wrong or I need to make some sort of config change or install/remove software. I’m no longer “tinkering” with it, I’m using it. It’s just as fast for me as it is for someone on a more “user friendly” OS.

              In other words, I have scaled most of the learning curve cliff.

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            Fedora is an odd choice if you’re looking for stability. It’s a rolling distro. Some rolling distros are fairly stable but fedora updates constantly broke my shit.

            Debian or opensuse leap are where it’s at for pure stability. Or any other LTS distro, really

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        When you want to do work on the OS instead of working on the OS. Arch was a fun learning experience but eventually an nvidia driver or something shit the bed on me and I never went back. Outsource the unit testing to others. Fedora still has very new packages and you can still roll from release to release. Even better if you’re using one of the Fedora Atomic flavors.

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          I was waiting for Syncthing 2 for like half a year. It’s yesterday when I’ve got it. All my other Arch machines have it for a very long time.

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            Could always just use anything like that in distrobox.

            Just saying because I too want stuff to just work and fedora does but still gives you access to new stuff like that in other ways.

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              Yeah, thanks! I think I’d try something like that some other time, as this time I didn’t know there are options. Here on Lemmy, someone mentioned that Synching self-updates if you just drop it somewhere on your disk. (Pretty cool!)

              I do enjoy Fedora a lot, but on shared machines. For my own machines, I prefer to tinker a lot, and build my own, depending on what I need. Since that’s quite easy once you’re past some point, why not, right?

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          I’ve been really curious to try LMDE, but I’ve got everything working exactly like I want it to in regular Mint and don’t want to screw it up.

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          Ibwish more linux people had this mentality of “if its not broke don’t fix it”. After years of floating around different distros, I just want something that works, is stable, and the OOTB is easy and works. So I’ve just gone back to mint debian edition. Idc, I don’t have time to be tinkering with my computer

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      That’s me, if settling on an atomic Fedora (Bluefin DX) counts.

      It’s the most painless setup I’ve used, and everything I need to be productive is ready to go. Tweaking everything doesn’t have the appeal it used to.

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      Yeah that’s me, but I started on Ubuntu. Arch is awesome, but Fedora does most of the same things and it’s so much easier to maintain an installation of

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      I started on Mint, distro hopped for a bit, currently running CachyOS on my gaming laptop and Debian on my other laptop. I haven’t tried Fedora though. I did do Bazzite for a bit but it didn’t click. Maybe one day I’ll give regular Fedora a go.