Hi everyone!

I have a collection of around 200 movies on DVD/Blurays that I’ve ripped with MakeMKV.

Wether I watch these on my Htpc with Kodi or on my Playstation 5, there are less fluid/smooth than when I watch Netflix on my TV.

As if the movies were 24/25 fps on dics and 60fps on Netflix.

And I have the same motion settings for all sources, but Netflix is still smoother without having too much of a sitcom effect. Am I the only one noticing this and how do they do this? I haven’t found anything on the web about this…

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    What brand of TV is it?

    Anyway, could be a number of things:

    • Your HTPC/PS5 are dropping frames because the Blu Ray bitrate is so high, + overhead from the player. TBH Netflix does a really good job with their apps.

    • Your TV/PC aren’t switching the refresh rate properly. But the Netflix app should do this transparently.

    • The blu rays were interlaced, telecined, or some hellish combo of both. Correcting that is very technical, but Netflix is quite good at it.

    • Your TV is removing judder from the source (a common built-in feature these days), but that doesn’t work with your HTPC/Playstation.

    • Your TV actually is interpolating frames on the Netflix app. While this is a more controversial opinion of mine, the “soap opera effect” is history: modern TVs have huge chips dedicated to doing it, and it looks really good (to my eyes).

    • And if that’s the case, well… 30p or 60p just looks better than a “cinematic” 24p, once you’re used to it. There are issues framing scenes without 60p in mind, yes, but beyond that you cannot unsee the smoothness once your eyes/brain get used to it. I’ve personally rediscovered this trying to film family video in 24p.

    • As far as I’m aware, Netflix doesn’t do interpolation on their end. But it’s not impossible.

    If you want another controversial opinion of mine: don’t use HTPCs or anything in 2026. Stream stuff to your TV directly with Plex, Jellyfin, the built in player; take your pick. It’s just a better, more directly coupled pipeline to your TV, especially when you try to get HDR looking right.

    And I’ve found my TV will directly decode anything under the sun. Weird media formats used to be an issue, but not anymore, apparently.

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      Well my TV is a Philips 55PUS7394_12 that I bought in 2019.

      Here are some of its specs for video

      I can live with it, but I just feel bad that Netflix movies play better than my supposedly higher quality blurays😅

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        It’s possible your external sources (Bluray player, PS5, HDMI) use a different picture profile than your native apps. Maybe you have frame interpolation (whatever it’s called on your model) enabled on native input?

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          Yeah I’ll investigate into this even if the settings are pretty similar between my Netflix source and my HTPC/PS5 source.

          Maybe it’s also easier for the TV to perfectly adapt the framerate to something coming from an app inside the TV instead of adapting to something coming from an external device…

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        Philips 55PUS7394_12

        Yeah, it seems to have a good processor in it.

        I implore you, just try playing back your Blu-Ray rips with Plex or Phillip’s built-in media app, streamed over the network.

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    Maybe it’s just your TV using a film profile with “enhanced fluidity”, while isn’t used in the game profile for the PS5. I avoid too much of that since feels artificial to me.

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      That’s what’s weird, for the native Netflix app I’m on Standard motion mode when I’m on « fluide » mode for movies on PS5/HTPC.

      But I guess the problem is probably coming from something being set up differently if Netflix doesn’t have a secret sauce and my TV is capable to be perfectly smooth when displaying Netflix movies…