If only the German revolution had succeeded shortly after the Russian. We’d likely live in a very different world.
I’ve thought about this before. If Germany went communist then it’s almost certain that the rest of Europe would too. There wouldn’t have been a second world war, and the US would’ve remained an isolationist power. In fact, the US itself had a strong labour movement back in the 1930s, and it would’ve been significantly boosted by Europe being communist.
Yep, it would have destroyed or severely weakened imperialism, giving socialist countries far more room to breathe and carry that momentum forward. Germany was also ripe for socialism as it was heavily industrialized and state run, just with bourgeois control.
Instead, socdems gave us fascism and the world we have today.
Truly the left wing of fascism.
People ignore the global impact the dissolution had. Socialist parties everywhere either rebranded to a neoliberalized form of social democracy or lost their traction. Entire labor movements collapsed and capitalist governments backpedaled on lots of welfare reforms that the working classes fought for with their blood, because there was no more a socialist global power to compete with.
Parenti wrote a great article on the subject https://www.marxists.org/archive/parenti/2002/global-rollback.pdf
That’s a weird way to write Yugoslavia…
It’s a direct cause of the former.
The fall of USSR caused Tito to die?
No, the petrodollar scheme years caused the entire Eastern bloc to suffer,
otherwise the USSR would have been able to keep the economies of Eastern Europe afloat and later thriving.The USSR had and has the fossil fuels to do it (and is recovering right now).
Yugoslavia did and does not.
If USSR didn’t fall neither would Yugoslavia though.
I disagree.
Stalin literally pushed Yugoslavia into the arms of capitalists because he couldn’t handle a socialist country not bowing to him.
But seriously, what did the USSR really do for Yugoslavia after the split besides import goods, and enable regular people to make profits from smuggling? The post war industrialisation aid was long over decades before the USSR fell apart. So the only major benefit was that they were hostile enough to force the creation of the unaligned.
But IMO the main reason Yugo fell apart was that it was based on Tito’s cult of personality, and not on long lasting systems. That’s why everything went downhill really quickly after he died.
Last I checked Yugoslavia was firmly socialist. And that was the primary reason NATO invaded it, something they would’ve never dared to do when USSR was around. If you don’t understand this basic fact, don’t know what else to tell you.
That’s rich…
Read up on the Tito-Stalin split and the unaligned. Socialist doesn’t mean Soviet aligned.
The primary reason they invaded was because the country was in the middle of an extremely bloody civil war with ethnic cleansing going all around. It’s absolutely delusional to think the USSR would or could have prevented that.
I’m well aware of the Tito-Stalin split and the unaligned. You do realize that neither Yugoslavia or USSR in the 80s remotely resembled what they were link in the 50s right?
The primary reason NATO invaded was to destroy a socialist state, and if you genuinely believe that NATO invaded to stop ethnic cleansing then you need to get your head checked.
Meanwhile, the fact that you don’t understand that NATO would’ve never dared to invade Yugoslavia while USSR was around clearly demonstrates that you have no clue regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate here and your woefully uninformed opinions can be safely ignored.
Bye.
Considering I have a Yugoslavian passport, I might just know a bit more about the state of it in the 80-90s than you. But sure, enjoy your tankie delusions… Buhbye
Having a Yugoslavian passport clearly does not stand in your way of being an ignoramus. But sure enjoy spewing nonsense confidently like the living embodiment of Dunning-Kruger effect that you are.
If the socialist federal Republic of Yugoslavia was invaded because they were socialist, why was the KINGDOM of Yugoslavia invaded? Or the KINGDOM of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes? Did you forget about both of the world wars?
It’s almost like every time some southern Slavs manage to unite, there’s at least one western power trying to divide them… It’s literally in no major power’s benefit to have united Balkans, USSR included.
