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    Seems pretty short term gain for Iran by pissing everybody off.

    Because surely the cables can relatively easily be rerouted over land, instead of paying Iran’s tolls. Unlike the tankers, the Internet signals do not need to go though the water.

    And how would Iran even justify forbidding the cables from going through the part of the strait which is not their territorial waters? The same way Iran “justifies” forbidding ships from doing that? - as in, no real attempt at a moral or legal justification.

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        But Iran would be pissing off everybody - for example China and India. Not just the US.

        War is pissing other people off. But does Iran want to be at war with all other countries in the world?

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      It would be a huge interruption of service for one and then the huge cost of replacement.

      Submarine cables exist because it is superior to land when done on scale.

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      You’re so short sighted to not see the advantage of re-writing the Obama Nuclear Deal.

      For the low, low price of many billions of dollars, a few tens of American lives, global stability, our military readiness, half of our stand-off munitions, our NATO allies and loss of US influence in the entire world we will have acquired an open* Strait of Hormuz, a ceasefire**, some pretty decent Lego propaganda, the one-time free passage of 8 tankers of oil and a doubling of gas prices to support our struggling fossil fuel industry.

      *for China only

      **not counting air strikes, anti-ship missiles, mines or fast boat attacks.

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    Do not worry, do not worry, he has already devised a plan, the best plan, the greatest plan to win this war and ensure the continuous communication of the people, because this plan, the greatest plan ever devised, needs Iran to seize control of the Internet Cables to take efect, the best plan.

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      No. Iran has significant terrestrial cables as well as underwater cables. The Gulf states meanwhile rely on cables laid through the shallow and narrow Omani waters, which likely could be cut without affecting Iranian underwater cables, plus Iran has terrestrial redundancy.

      The point of this would be to screw with American Big Data.

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      The undersea cables carry a large share of global data traffic between Europe, the Gulf, and Asia.

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      They already cut the internet out off for themselves except a few elites. So they don’t care.

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        A bit of an oversimplification. They shut everything down in the first weeks of the war, but have slowly been opening up again in the past few weeks, notably with paid packages that connect to the real internet.

        This week they opened up a messenger that works internationally, even if you’re not using the paid international package. It looks like it’s based on the Chinese model, which is likely what Iran’s internet will be like going forward, with a complete purge of Cisco and other Western hardware as well.

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      I don’t think Iran cares if their citizens can access the internet or not. I presume their military uses satellites for that sort of thing so they won’t be negatively affected by it.

      The rest of the world, on the other hand, gets their access to worldwide connectivity held hostage.

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        The whole world? I see several lines, but it does not appear anyone beside the gulf states would be severely affected.

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          What I meant by that is the ability to access the entire world interconnectivity - obviously cutting those cables would not affect domestic internet access but people who live elsewhere would not be able to access content hosted overseas in gulf states.

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    do it

    idk why “news” pretends not to be absolute bullshit when they write up shit like this

    why would a country announce such a thing?

    hmmm considering a lil warfare who knows hehe 😉

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      Current list of US sanctions and embargoes

      Balkans-related
      Belarus
      Burundi
      Central African Republic
      China
      Counter Narcotics Trafficking
      Counter Terrorism
      Cuba
      Cyber Related
      Democratic Republic of the Congo
      Iran
      Iraq-related
      Lebanon-related
      Libya
      Magnitsky
      Non-Proliferation
      North Korea
      Rough Diamond Trade Controls
      Somalia
      Sudan
      Syria
      Transnational Criminal Organizations
      Ukraine-related
      Venezuela
      Yemen
      Zimbabwe
      
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          Russia most certainly is, not sure why they left it off. There’s also a bunch of sanctions against Russia under the “Ukraine-related” category.

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      It means Iran is winning by controlling the Straight of Hormuz.

      It means things will continue to get worse until the United States and Iran come to an agreement.

      The Iranians have said the war will end on their terms. So far they’ve been right, as the US refuses to accept their terms and they continue to control the Straight.

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        My prediction is that Iran will insist on everything else but if all of those things are met they will ‘concede’ the straight back to open waters like it was before the US fucked everything up.

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      If foreigners come along and want to tell me what i have to do and what to allow, meddle without remorse in my local politics and lastly don’t change their behaviour when suddenly i acquire power, it’s not me starting the world war. This is on the US (and also the german CxU)