Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs

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    Utterly pointless thread. Drivel. Change your power settings so that you can close the screen and have the machine “do nothing”.

    Is this the level of content that is deemed worthy these days? Literally a non-story.

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      The story here isn’t actually about the laptops, it’s about the people addicted to the AI use.

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    It’s easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls’ practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.

    “I have to put it up on a shelf,” he said. “I’m untying my girls’ skates while looking back like: Is it done?”

    I just feel bad for these poor kids. You can’t leave your goddamn Claude at home while you take your kids to the rink?

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      I mean this is why I don’t mind using AI, it gives me the time to focus on the people around me.

      Also I see it as a sign of a lack of support and isolation in the workplace. Like “I need help, I don’t have anyone to turn to cause everyone is fired so this is my only support” and the anxiety that brings.

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      or you can literally just do what is it? something+tab? and it just goes to town without the need for you to confirm anything.

      I mean it’s gonna turn out slop that won’t scale and be full of exploits anyways regardless if you auto confirm or not. then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.

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        then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.

        Fucking. Exactly. I just made a long comment about how this article feels like they’re talking to non-tech-savvy people who are pretending to be tech-savvy because they talk to a fucking AI.

        Like this dumbfuck kid who “has to keep shipping software” as if that means he’s not shipping it riddled with bugs and security issues since his AI makes the spaghetti code and he just says “I’m sure this is ready for production.”

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          I used to use a push notification app and a small python script for that.

          I would “&& notify_me ‘message’ “ and get a notification on my watch when whatever script I was running completed

          I judge this wave of people in tech pretty harshly.

          Just a bunch of boring script kiddies

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            I couldn’t even find any evidence in the article or photos that anyone interviewed was running a local LLM, which would at least justify worrying about temps if your keyboard acts as your air intake (which apparently is relatively common now).

            Just a bunch of narcissists wanting an excuse to have people ask them about what they’re doing, ogle what they’re doing, and so they can pretend they’re…

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      I remember being a young intern and a senior dev taught me about screen. It was cool and I immediately forgot how to use it.

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      It is. I don’t know if you do any development or simply write code as a hobby but you get a sort of dopamine hit when something you’re working on actually works. like a bug or something that’s been dogging you for days and suddenly you figure it out. it feels good. I can’t remember the quote but Linus Torvald said something similar. it’s a good feeling.

      Now imagine you get that constantly, consistently, again and again because you strictly use an AI agent. that’s what these tech bros are getting. The problem is unlike actual devs they’re getting that hit because it essentially “works on my machine” as really that’s all the AI turns out. Something that surface level functions. So they’re addicted to it. “oh man that was so fast and easy, lets build something else!” over and over again.

      The problem then becomes they’ll run out of ideas or things to build and will naturally have to start trying to maintain what the AI built utilizing the same AI. Annnnnd if you’ve had any experience with these agents you know “that’s where the fun starts” those dopamine hits are going to vanish very quickly. Now these people are “chasing the dragon” so to speak. AI doesn’t know it was the one that built the thing. I’ve seen it first hand with my clients vibe coders when I’ve asked them to go back into something that was built and have the AI start fixing bugs that I’ve found in my review. the vibe coder panics, it doesn’t understand what the agent is telling them, the agent believes the vibe coder built this thing. suddenly it’s not fun anymore. suddenly it’s not churning out semi-working results. suddenly things are breaking.

      This is the one aspect NONE of these companies or tech bros or vibe coders like to talk about it. Haven’t you wondered why you rarely read stories of them sending their AI agents back into the thing its built to scale it or fix something? it never turns out well.

      So it is an addiction. And they’re all collectively chasing the dragon. But eventually they stop getting their hits and will crash out.

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        If these yahoos come back to hire people like me who were dismissed like so much garbage, they are going to find we processed our loss and moved on after a year of self reflection and accepatance.

        They will either pay us through the nose to convince us to help, or piss off.

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    In the before times we had to VPN into machines and run large data processing jobs that took hours. It was pretty normal for everyone to leave their laptop half-open on their desks during lunch.

    No, it was not a good idea. Yes, we fucked with each other and changed people’s backgrounds or chat usernames or email signatures.

    Anyways, if you’re on Mac you can run caffeinate -i claude and your computer won’t go to sleep until you close your Claude Code instance. You can also attach it to a PID. Then you can close your computer’s lid and it’ll still run.

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    Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs

    They’d have to know how to use a computer to know that…

    And if they knew how to use a computer, they wouldn’t be using AI to do their job.

    A big thing no one is talking about, is how each worker’s goal here isn’t to build a fully functioning thing, it’s to make something “good enough” that it gets off your desk and is no longer your problem. It doesn’t matter if the “creator” knows how it works or even if it works. Just enough to get a rubber stamp from your manager, then they move on to a new one.

    Since most “AI coders” will just keep typing “try again” till it works, eventually they’ll get something that “works”, we won’t fully realize the damage for a while

    But pretty soon shit is going to start breaking all over and no one will know how to fix it besides typing into an AI “try again”. No corp or government will pay humans to start over with something maintainable…

    And this is the most boring way possible we get to War Hammer 40k

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    Can’t you just disable sleep on close?

    Most modern laptops have their air intake in the keyboard, which would cause them to overheat on a matter of minutes.

    Edit: I may have been confidently incorrect here. I know I’ve seen this done before, but I guess it’s not common like I thought

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Even if there was an intake in the keyboard it wouldn’t dramatically affect anything. My P1 does partially intake through the keyboard and closing the lid has no appreciable performance impact. I only leave the lid open so the display doesn’t get baked by the i9 using 70+ watts.

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      Most? With the amount of people running laptop docked I would say that is not the case for most business laptops for sure.

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        I really don’t think it’s a thing, or maybe just for some high end gaming laptops? Which, yeah, most things on expensive gaming laptops don’t actually make sense. They just throw shit on there to justify prices

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      Decent ones dropped this practice a while ago. Some pull in the sides, some crappy ones use the bottom. My coworker actually got much better performance out of his dell by closing the lid and flipping it over. With it positioned normally it would overheat and throttle the cpu.

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        The vast majority take in from the bottom and blow out the hinge. That’s how you can fit the larger blower fans.

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      Do you have an example?

      I tried to find something, but the only mention was five years old saying Alienware might try it.

      It sounds stupid but with people using laptops on beds I could see the idea behind it.

      If they increased the size of those little rubber feet to keep the screen and keyboard separate, then that would completely solve the issue.

      I want to see if no one’s thought of that yet since it seemed so obvious, but I just can’t find any real example of keyboard cold air intakes. Are you talking about actual vents? Going between the keys may just be an urban legend from what I’m seeing.

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    Why would you not just ssh to a server at your house or office and only wake from sleep when you get a notification saying whatever process is done running? That just seems like screen addiction to me.

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    even the crappy old bobcat-based (slow af amd apu) laptops i have here run with lid closed (they run piholes and what-not).