• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Socialism has worked in every country it has been established in. They have all had their own problems, but these generally pale in comparison to the fundamental structural contradictions in capitalism, and have been some of the fastest developing countries in history.

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      China, Vietnam, the DPRK, Cuba are all in the process and have benefited massively from the workers having seized the state. The USSR also benefited massively before it’s illegal dissolution and the people suffered greatly when they lost control of the state. It’s only fantasy if you’re a massively ignorant pillock.

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      Modern capitalist economies are already massively centralized and planned – see “The People’s Republic of Walmart.”

      Socialist countries fail because they are embargoed, which stifles their economy, which then stifles their legitimacy.

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        Exactly my point. It doesn’t work. Humans are the problem that will not allow a society to flourish. By nature the worst will always rise to the top.

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          Desperately trying to justify your refusal to contribute to anything with boring fatalism. By that logic, we’re all gonna die so why bother commenting?

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          People are not inherently evil. Your pessimism was indoctrinated into you, and you can be undoctrinated from that wrong view.

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            Are you kidding me? Look around you. How much evil do you need to see? As long as people like this exist nothing good can coexist with them. This is all dreamworld bullshit

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              As long as people like this exist nothing good can coexist with them.

              That’s what the reeducation programs and firing squads are for.

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              We have world historical leaps in life and happiness to back up what we’re saying, while you just have mopey, navel gazing teenage bullshit about this fallen world and how people are shit, man.

              Our beliefs are backed by experience, yours by learned helplessness.

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              You’re right better isn’t and has never been possible everyone is evil and greedy and we should all just kill ourselves.

              Edgy teenager nonsense. Grow up.