• woelkchen@lemmy.world
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    And the workers are certainly pro-capitalism because they make money from that too. /s

    In general people are in favor of the things that directly benefit them, yes, absolutely. Who would even assume otherwise?

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      You aren’t a capitalist if you’re paid well under capitalism, your labor is still being taking advantage of so the capitalist can buy a new summer mansion, you could still be fired for no reason, and you’re still one injury or automation or bad economic quarter away from being laid off.

      Being pro capitalism when you don’t own capital is a result of a lifelong of propaganda and no understanding what capitalism is.

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        You aren’t a capitalist if you’re paid well under capitalism, your labor is still being taking advantage of so the capitalist can buy a new summer mansion, you could still be fired for no reason, and you’re still one injury or automation or bad economic quarter away from being laid off.

        And yet these workers seek to get wealthy off capitalism, even though they are not the capitalists themselves. SK Hynix workers are not capitalists either but payouts of $460,000-$477,000 per worker is not working class wage either.

        Being pro capitalism when you don’t own capital is a result of a lifelong of propaganda and no understanding what capitalism is.

        You mean like South Korea where their poster child of anti-capitalism is North Korea, right across the border?

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          SK Hynix workers are not capitalists either but payouts of $460,000-$477,000 per worker is not working class wage either.

          Right, no one is happy to have to fight for a bigger share of the pot and still be shorted. Of course I’ll take $460K, but you’d be very stupid to credit capitalism for it…

          You mean like South Korea where their poster child of anti-capitalism is North Korea, right across the border?

          I don’t know what point you’re making.

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            you’d be very serious to credit capitalism for it…

            There is a difference between the claim that the workers aren’t pro capitalism when they make a good payout, alleging that I’m referring to the workers as capitalists, and me allegedly crediting capitalism itself.

            I don’t know what point you’re making.

            Yes, it is obvious that there is a group of people here deeply entrenched in the anglo-centristic world view of a 14 y/o kid who cannot fathom the concept of the average South Koran having a different view of capitalism than them, in light of South Korans having North Korea right across the border.

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              There is a difference between the claim that the workers aren’t pro capitalism when they make a good payout, alleging that I’m referring to the workers as capitalists, and me allegedly crediting capitalism itself.

              What are you saying?

              Workers wouldn’t be grateful for getting a “good” payout if they had the option to control the means of production and had the whole pot. They are grateful to have it within the confines of capitalism, if you’re saying they’re grateful for capitalism then you are crediting capitalism.

              Yes, it is obvious that there is a group of people here deeply entrenched in the anglo-centristic world view of a 14 y/o kid who cannot fathom the concept of the average South Koran having a different view of capitalism than them, in light of South Korans having North Korea right across the border.

              It is obvious that you think Koreans aren’t capable of thinking past surface level. Me see worst of North Korea, me grateful for capitalism. Good God.

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                if you’re saying they’re grateful for capitalism then you are crediting capitalism.

                I’m not.

                It is obvious that you think Koreans aren’t capable of thinking past surface level.

                I do not.

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                  Then kindly mash the letters on your keyboard randomly, perhaps it’ll form more words to explain what you’re trying to say than your previous attempts, because I’m honestly not clear on what points you’re attempting to make…

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        Why would you assume people agree with something they must do to eat?

        “Based on 2026 profit forecasts, that translates to average payouts of $460,000-$477,000 per worker”

        Yeah, that’s just barely enough to eat. 😂

        This isn’t about needing to eat, it’s about becoming as wealthy as Hynix workers. Did you even read the article?

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          You said “in general.” You backtracking from that?

          But yes, weird as it was to accuse me of not reading the article, I also saw the people here discussing the improbability of your quote.

          But even if is true, it’s easy to play gatekeeper against the working class and to add extra divisions among them. It’s even easier to assume their beliefs. But you’re only serving their bosses.

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            against the working class

            Highly paid specialists is not the working class. You clearly didn’t read the article and now try to weasel out of your uninformed comments.

            But you’re only serving their bosses.

            LOL. As if comments on Lemmy had any influence on strikes in South Korea.

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              You’re the one who literally said “in general.”

              But please tell me about the pay bracket that makes people not working class…

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                You’re the one who literally said “in general.”

                And I also literally said “directly benefiting”. Nice selective quoting you did there. “In general people are in favor of the things that directly benefit them”

                So if people are directly benefiting from capitalism, these people are in favor of it. Not really a super hard concept to grasp, yet you keep struggling with that simple sentence.