• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Russia has absolutely no interest in invading Europe. This is a narrative used to justify increasing European military budgets as the spoils of imperialism are drying up and the global south is gaining more independence from the US and Europe. NATO is a blight on human progress and needs to be dissolved for a better future.

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      NATO is a blight on human progress and needs to be dissolved for a better future.

      Saying it again for those too busy mocking the schoolteachers to hear the lesson, let alone study it.

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      So is Ukraine not in Europe or not being invaded? How about Georgia and Moldova? I guess the constant threats against Svalbard and Baltikum, as well as the funding and bribery of alt-right groups all over the west can be seen as technically not an invasion, but it does paint a scary picture. It might be true that Putin don’t want to invade western and northern Europe, but he is actively trying to reconquer what he sees as lost western colonies.

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        The “invasion” began in 2014 when the US orchestrated a hostile takeover of the Ukrainian government. It was then continued with several years of the nazis in Ukraine bombing the Donbass, breaching two peace treaties. Russia then responded to that agression, which one can think a lot of things about. The “invasion” was the US-coup-government of Ukraine invading the Donbass.

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            What are you trying to say? That the many documented breaches of Minsk 1 and 2 didn’t happen, that Azov battalion didn’t get integrated into the military and government, or that observing the events that led to war is propaganda?

            If Putin said that grass is green, then that doesn’t suddenly make it purple.

            I think you need to consider that you yourself are not immune to propaganda and your idea of what propaganda is; how it disseminates; what purpose it serves; and who the largest purveyors of it is in the west is lacking.

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              I reject reality because reality is just parroting Russian talking points.
              Ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears.

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                Propaganda is when you say things. Unbiased facts is when I say things. Smh all these people falling for russian propaganda, I would never fall for propaganda which is why I parrot whatever the us state department says - I make sure to preempt it with “us bad too though” so that means I’m the cleverest little boy around. Two things can be true, Occam’s razor, no true Scotsman, appeal to authority fallacy

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                  Too bad you got banned, I would’ve loved to see your sources for your claims. Putin isn’t some cartoon villain, scheming to take over the world. Ive not seen him Daydream about invading any country in Europe - though I’ve seen plenty articles fearmongering baselessly about it.
                  Regarding wars that involve Russia I’d love to have heard your reductive reasoning for why they happened. But you got banned because you couldn’t keep from saying some really heinous shit. Odd how often that happens shrug-outta-hecks

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        The crisis in Ukraine was sparked by aggressive NATO expansion, a western-backed Banderite coup in 2014, and the inability of Russia to resolve the ensuing civil war and ethnic cleansing committed by the new Kiev regime against the Donbass with the Minsk agreements. Russia wanted to join NATO decades ago and join the imperialist club, but the west decided it would rather re-colonize Russia, hence the reciprocation from Russia.