While I’m totally with you, I use Linux on all my machines and it works great even on a netbook from the netbook era … I cannot beat a battery life of a M-powered MacBook. I literally have MacBook Air 15 with M4 and 4 hours of work in After Effects and full render preview of 1080P video, took 65% of battery. Overnight the laptop lost 0% of battery. My Intel era MacBook Pro (with Arch Linux installed) takes 0% of battery too, but I power it off. This beast took 0% battery for just closing the lid. It wakes up momentarily. It’s just a different league. Even my desktops are unreliable with sleep, I have no idea why. No hardware so far was reliable enough for me casually use sleep. Most times it works, but when it isn’t, it’s very disappointing.
MacBooks … since Intel era, I’ve been using them with uptime of a year (we used to have updates less often circa fifteen years ago). I powered it off twice: when I went for a vacation, not taking it with me. And when I bought a newer MacBook.
Now, with new MacBooks, the only reason to reboot is to install updates. There’s no reason to power it off. Even if you use it every other day, it won’t discharge. It’s like an iPad now.
Yeah, I bet. It is surely is hard to beat a system where they have full control of both the hardware and the software to be fully optimized for each other. Hard to compete with that. Too bad I dislike pretty much everything about Macs other than the battery life. 🫤️
Well, I bet it’s everyone who used them not long enough to understand their different logic. They do have stupid interface decisions indeed. But overall it’s just many times better than Windows in every single department.
In what sense is it a broken mess? It’s working for me on both my desktop PC and my work laptop. I’m on Linux 7.x (Arch, so always latest release pretty much.) Maybe it isn’t working well with older kernels? Or what can be the culprit here?
Maybe it’s just Debian based systems, but last I tried (about a year ago), hibernate wasn’t provided out of the box and requires some serious work to setup. And that has been an issue for years.
Looking online it seems like secure boot is/was the issue - articles from 2025 seems to imply it may work now, but may require some additional steps to make work.
My desktop running CachyOS absolutely refuses to wake from sleep. It’s literally the only problem I’ve experienced over the past ~6 months or so of using Linux - I just haven’t had the time to diagnose and fix.
Still better than my work-issued Windows 11 laptop though!
To be fair, when I was running Win10 on that same machine, it developed a bug where the sound would garble and the clock would start falling behind when waking from sleep.
I couldn’t find a fix online then, but the closest suggestion was possibly a dead CMOS battery which I replaced at the same time I installed a new NVME SSD for my Linux install.
My set-up (at least in terms of USB devices) is quite complex (3-port USB switcher, 4K webcam, DAC, and an 7-port USB hub for keyboard, mouse, numpad, stream deck, pedals and microphone inputs) - as I use it for both my home desktop and for my docked work laptop, basically as a cheaper KVM with a HEAP of high-speed USB inputs.
So it could honestly be any number of hardware-related issues causing it to fail from waking up.
Now I either leave the PC on for extended periods as needed (Linux is pretty famous for stability!), or just shut it down if not.
Laughs in MacBook Air M4.
Chuckles on any hardware on Linux.
While I’m totally with you, I use Linux on all my machines and it works great even on a netbook from the netbook era … I cannot beat a battery life of a M-powered MacBook. I literally have MacBook Air 15 with M4 and 4 hours of work in After Effects and full render preview of 1080P video, took 65% of battery. Overnight the laptop lost 0% of battery. My Intel era MacBook Pro (with Arch Linux installed) takes 0% of battery too, but I power it off. This beast took 0% battery for just closing the lid. It wakes up momentarily. It’s just a different league. Even my desktops are unreliable with sleep, I have no idea why. No hardware so far was reliable enough for me casually use sleep. Most times it works, but when it isn’t, it’s very disappointing.
MacBooks … since Intel era, I’ve been using them with uptime of a year (we used to have updates less often circa fifteen years ago). I powered it off twice: when I went for a vacation, not taking it with me. And when I bought a newer MacBook.
Now, with new MacBooks, the only reason to reboot is to install updates. There’s no reason to power it off. Even if you use it every other day, it won’t discharge. It’s like an iPad now.
Yeah, I bet. It is surely is hard to beat a system where they have full control of both the hardware and the software to be fully optimized for each other. Hard to compete with that. Too bad I dislike pretty much everything about Macs other than the battery life. 🫤️
Well, I bet it’s everyone who used them not long enough to understand their different logic. They do have stupid interface decisions indeed. But overall it’s just many times better than Windows in every single department.
I mean hibernate is a broken mess on Linux, part of the reason Linux as a main driver never quite worked for me.
In what sense is it a broken mess? It’s working for me on both my desktop PC and my work laptop. I’m on Linux 7.x (Arch, so always latest release pretty much.) Maybe it isn’t working well with older kernels? Or what can be the culprit here?
Maybe it’s just Debian based systems, but last I tried (about a year ago), hibernate wasn’t provided out of the box and requires some serious work to setup. And that has been an issue for years.
Looking online it seems like secure boot is/was the issue - articles from 2025 seems to imply it may work now, but may require some additional steps to make work.
Guffaws authoritavely in custom silicone that I created running on my own fork of TempleOS
Chortles in peasantry.
Can’t have a shitty battery if you cant afford a device.
I’m impressed by your ability to post on Lemmy without using any device.
How do you do it? Do you send your posts in by mail?
RFC 1149, IP Over Avian Character.
or public libraries but that’s not as funny
Ain’t no x86 hardware coming close to ARM regardless of the OS installed.
Tell me more about this ARM’s (master) race.
My desktop running CachyOS absolutely refuses to wake from sleep. It’s literally the only problem I’ve experienced over the past ~6 months or so of using Linux - I just haven’t had the time to diagnose and fix.
Still better than my work-issued Windows 11 laptop though!
Strange. What can even cause that? My very new desktop PC and very old work laptop both running Arch wake from suspend just fine. 🤔
To be fair, when I was running Win10 on that same machine, it developed a bug where the sound would garble and the clock would start falling behind when waking from sleep.
I couldn’t find a fix online then, but the closest suggestion was possibly a dead CMOS battery which I replaced at the same time I installed a new NVME SSD for my Linux install.
My set-up (at least in terms of USB devices) is quite complex (3-port USB switcher, 4K webcam, DAC, and an 7-port USB hub for keyboard, mouse, numpad, stream deck, pedals and microphone inputs) - as I use it for both my home desktop and for my docked work laptop, basically as a cheaper KVM with a HEAP of high-speed USB inputs.
So it could honestly be any number of hardware-related issues causing it to fail from waking up.
Now I either leave the PC on for extended periods as needed (Linux is pretty famous for stability!), or just shut it down if not.
Cackles with reality.
Computers aren’t real.