The people before us weren’t perfect. Their mistakes are blueprints to learn from and build a better world

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    Plus, China has billionaires. Any truly non-capitalistic country wouldn’t have ~~ billionaires~~ oligarchs. Nor would they have factory workers working for 75 hours per week.

    I would define a transition from capitalism to socialism as
    Merchants & lawyers out of power
    and engineers (laborers) & academics into power,
    which is what China has.
    The US isn’t failing true capitalism while still secretly being feudalistic,
    just because land lords and TV evangelists exist,
    while George Bush Jr, eldest son of George Bush Senior, became leader of the land in 2000.
    China just had a capitalistic phase due to Deng’s reforms,
    just like the US had a socialist phase due to Roosevelt’s reforms.
    Both of those did not last, because ultimately those in power are
    socialist for China (engineers & academics)
    and capitalist for the US (merchants & lawyers).
    The capitalist phase is already waning under Xi,
    just like the socialist phase did under Nixon did for the US.

    Considering that China is known for its heavy censorship and is in good cahoots with Russia, it isn’t racist to be suspicious.

    Lol. Do you really use such language with your own nation?
    If not, you are selective and that begs the question as to why
    and what pattern would emerge out of what you are selective to.
    I highly doubt you ever said something along the lines of
    “The EU/UK is in good cahoots with the US”,
    despite the fact that EU NATO chief Rutte openly called Trump “daddy”.
    I don’t see Putin doing that with Xi. Putin is not even running
    a socialist country.
    And Putin talks about a multipolar world in which Russia is one of those poles.

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      To be honest, I am growing quite tired of the USA. I do not like the USA or what it stands for; Donald Trump is merely proof of what I’ve been saying about the country all along. I do think that countries that are buddy-buddy with the USA are frustrating as hell. As a Canadian, I’ve been done with their BS for so long that it’s not even funny.

      I actually criticise the country so much that I can genuinely say I’m a certified hater. Plus, I also believe that patriotism for being Canadian or American is celebration of colonialism; we should deconstruct these countries instead of maintaining status quo. People got genocided just so cranky old white people can cry about immigrants from India and eat hotdogs and burgers on Canada day.

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        I don’t think you’ll find anyone disagreeing with you here, Canada and the US Empire are both genocidal settler-colonies and imperialist powers. The US Empire is just the global hegemon (though this is dying away), Canada is complicit because it benefits.

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          And what sucks even more is that I’m sadly very disabled and can’t protest in public like everyone else can. In a nutshell, I developed a severe condition after a traumatic event and it’s so bad that I can’t even work at a job. I already had autism and ADHD and can’t drive a car as a result, but this newer condition makes everything 10 times worse.

          From the time I was 7 or 8 years old, I always wanted to grow up and help the world. I always wanted to be somebody important like Greta Thunberg (even before I heard of her). I’ve always cared about animals and the damage that is being done to the environment worldwide. In fact, every time I enter a car, I think about the fossil fuel gas contributing to the decline of the environment.

          Every single day, I think about how capitalism and carelessness are ruining the world. In the last 13 or 14 years, I don’t know if a single day has ever passed by where I wasn’t thinking about the injustices of this planet.

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            I’m sorry to hear that. I agree, capitalism’s destructive contradictions force untold horrors upon the world. Do you have an org you work with? Volunteering at a party can really help give optimism and purpose. A better world is possible, and it’s being built in socialist countries already. I feel like you’re letting your pessimism turn towards other countries that frankly aren’t as bad as the west is, and are in many ways progressing humanity forward. It’s our job to make sure that happens, and to stop imperialism and settler-colonialism.

            Revolutionary optimism is what keeps me going.

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        Given that you think the US and Canada are only as bad as Russia, you’re certainly no hater of them; if anything, you have a rosey picture of them. Further supported by the fact you think 250 people dying in clashes 40 years ago even registered in comparison to the millions killed by the West since.

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        the easiest first step in ensuring that the usa and it’s ilk change their tune is to stop repeating the propaganda the usa already admitted to manufacturing thanks to the freedom of information act.

        i’m referring to stuff like this:

        I do think China has done some good, but it also doesn’t cancel out the sketchiness. I do agree that we could learn from China, but there’s also a damn good reason why their phones are banned in multiple countries.

        Not to mention, at least 250 people died during the Tianamen square incident. Some even estimate that thousands died, but it was at least 250 people.

        Plus, China has billionaires. Any truly non-capitalistic country wouldn’t have billionaires. Nor would they have factory workers working for 75 hours per week.

        if you’re to repeat their propaganda, you should atleast be getting paid for it.

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          My honest stance is that Russia and the US are just as bad as one another. Anyone who defends either of these two countries is suspect to me. I do think the fact that other Eastern European countries flinch at Russia is highly indicative that something clearly went wrong in the Soviet Union. However, I dislike that the CIA got involved in the dissolution of the USSR.

          Being constantly spied on is one of my biggest fears, so I’m obviously making moves to slowly degoogle my life. My next step is buying a Google Pixel, which sounds insane until you realise that you can install GrapheneOS on it (the most private operating system for phones). Thankfully, Motorola is soon teaming up with GrapheneOS and GOS is maintaining its position as a non-profit organisation. This pairing is simply meant to ensure that the OS is available on more than just Google phones.

          I even plan to get rid of Facebook, Instagram, and Reddit. I already got rid of Twitter and TikTok and am switching over to Bluesky, Mastodon, Lemmy, Matrix.org, Pixelfed, and Loops (by Pixelfed). I also prefer Linux over anything mainstream like Windows or MacOS. Because I won’t be able to afford a Pixel for a few months, I’m slowly getting prepared by downloading APK downloaders. Stock Android is getting locked down and I’m preparing for it.

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            Regarding Russia, it’s certianly no Paradise, and it’s fallen dramatically from its proud Soviet roots. It’s a modern tragedy. However, the US Empire is the global hegemon, the premier imperialist power, while Russia is a strong friend to Cuba, China, Iran, Venezuela, and many other anti-imperialist countries like Burkina Faso. It’s playing a progressive role, despite being dominated by capitalism in the current era.

            The USSR had steady and consistent economic growth, and provided free, high quality education and healthcare, full employment, cheap or free housing, and fantastic infrastructure and city planning that still lasts to this day despite capitalism neglecting it. This rapid development resulted in dramatic democratization of society, reduced disparity, doubling of life expectancy, tripling of functional literacy rates to 99.9%, and much more. Living in the 1930s famine would not have been good, but it was the last major famine outside of wartime because the soviets ended famine in their countries.

            Literacy rates, societal guarantees in the 1936 constitution, reports on the healthcare system over time, and more are good sources for these claims.

            The USSR brought dramatic democratization to society. First-hand accounts from Statesian journalist Anna Louise Strong in her book This Soviet World describe soviet elections and factory councils in action. Statesian Pat Sloan even wrote Soviet Democracy to describe in detail the system the soviets had built for curious Statesians to read about, and today we have Professor Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance to reference.

            When it comes to social progressivism, the soviet union was among the best out of their peers, so instead we must look at who was actually repressed outside of the norm. In the USSR, it was the capitalist class, the kulaks, the fascists who were repressed. This is out of necessity for any socialist state. When it comes to working class freedoms, however, the soviet union represented a dramatic expansion. Soviet progressivism was documented quite well in Albert Syzmanski’s Human Rights in the Soviet Union.

            The truth, when judged based on historical evidence and contextualization, is that socialism was the best thing to happen to Russia in the last few centuries, and its absence has been devastating.

            Death rates spiked:

            And wealth disparity skyrocketed alongside the newly impoverished majority:

            Capitalism brought with it skyrocketing poverty rates, drug abuse, prostitution, homelessness, crime rates, and lowered life expectancy. An estimated 7 million people died due to the dissolution of socialism and reintroduction of capitalism, and this is why the large majority of post-soviet citizens regret its fall. A return to socialism is the only path forward for the post-soviet countries. A lot of Eastern European countries were swarmed with western capital during the destruction of socialism, which is what temporarily caused the rise of the far-right in these countries, but in time their problems will no longer be able to be ignored.

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            *i’m going to be doing graphene too and i’m waiting for motorola.

            My honest stance is that Russia and the US are just as bad as one another. Anyone who defends either of these two countries is suspect to me. I do think the fact that other Eastern European countries flinch at Russia is highly indicative that something clearly went wrong in the Soviet Union. However, I dislike that the CIA got involved in the dissolution of the USSR.

            this “both sides” argument is indicative of the extent to which western propaganda has impacted your thought process.

            the FOIA litmus test will easily tell you whether or not your source is biased. since the late 1970’s the FOIA has effectively been forcing the us gov’t to publicly admit that it manufactured propaganda about many things including north korea as an “authoritarian” state.

            if your source still characterizes north korea as an authoritarian state; then know that they’re giving you propaganda that the us gov’t has already effectively said is fake – in writing – since 1979.