I feel like this is a hack that is rarely talked about. And it’s the most reliable method I’ve found for getting an email account that I can use for signing up to other websites.

Imagine you want to create a completely anonymous account on some website. Most websites require an email account to sign up. if you’re lucky you can use one of those a temporary email services, but many websites block those nowadays. They only accept trusted email providers like Gmail, Protonmail, etc. And trying to make an anonymous account on those providers is difficult. Even Protonmail, surprisingly. If you try to sign up for Protonmail using a VPN or Tor, they will ask for a phone number or a second email account. So now you have to get a phone number anonymously (very difficult), or get another email account anonymously, back to square one.

Darknet markets solve this problem. Pay a bit of Monero, and you get an account. Completely anonymous. Now I won’t pretend it’s easy. Even just signing up for a darknet market often requires learning how to PGP encrypt/decrypt messages. But it only takes an 30 min or so to figure it out and sign up, and it opens up a new world of tools to use for privacy. There are many other types of accounts that you can buy aside from Protonmail, and many other products in general that you can buy.

I don’t get why Protonmail doesn’t just accept anonymous crypto as an option during signup, but until they do this is honestly the most reliable option I’ve found. I really wish more websites just accepted crypto for account creation. It’s understandable that in order to prevent spam accounts, account creation has to cost something, and crypto allows it to cost something without costing your privacy.

Anyways, here’s a quick guide to get started. I’ll avoid direct links since I don’t know if those are allowed.

  1. install Tor Browser Bundle, and use it for the following steps
  2. search for websites like Daunt, Dread forums, and Tor Taxi. Darknet markets change all the time so use those websites to figure out which ones are currently active. Cross-check links across multiple websites to make sure they are trustworthy, since often scam websites will try to pose as legitimate ones
  3. look for markets that let you search for the product you’re interested in before signing up, to save you time
  4. some markets require you to load funds into the market and then pay using those funds. Avoid loading more than you need, since some markets have “rugpulled” before (aka taken everybody’s funds and disappeared. This is the risk of an anonymous market).

Edit: also if for some reason a seller doesn’t accept Monero, you can use a crypto swap. Basically you send the swap service some Monero, tell them what crypto to convert it to (like Bitcoin or Ethereum), and where to send it to. Many can be used anonymously, without signup

  • ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    Man, if you really think some darknet service is going to be more reliable just because Protonmail wants a specific kind of fiat

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      20 hours ago

      what do you mean? Are you talking about how you can pay for Protonmail using cash? I haven’t found a way to anonymously send cash. Physical movement can be easily tracked via surveillance cameras

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        Physical movement can be tracked by cameras. All digital transactions are tracked by virtue of the way the internet works.

        When you put your trust in digital transactions you are putting your trust in the cryptography that hopefully underpins them. With recent regimes of harvest now decrypt later, you are putting your trust in both the perfect forward and quantum/parallel resistance of that cryptography.

        Just some food for thought. Sending cash might be a smarter choice than you think.

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          harvest now decrypt later applies to cameras too. Install a bunch of security cameras, aggregate all footage, use facial detection, gait detection, predictive algorithms, etc to figure out the motion of all citizens at all times. I would not be surprised if governments were already doing this.

          You simply cannot practically “encrypt” physical methods wirh the same amount of entropy that can be used for digital methods. And this is even before quantum-safe encryption.

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        Exactly, do you really think that your data is magically more secure because you paid the vendor with bits farmed on an ASIC somewhere instead of dead slave owner portraits?

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          Monero is very secure. You might want to actually read about it first… For one, it runs best on consumer grade hardware

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              it makes it more decentralized, preventing data centers from having a large advantage and mounting 51% attacks

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                Ahh yes, I’m sure some genius out there is scheming a 51% attack on the Federal Reserve 🙄

                We need a more decentralized digital currency to address the issues inherent to the last decentralized digital currency!

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                  Ok this is getting far off topic. Monero provides privacy. It’s a lot easier to send money anonymously using Monero than, say, cash or credit. The point that the other commenter made about consumer hardware, is more about decentralization, which some people value and are thus against government-controlled currency like the Federal Reserve. But that’s not why I brought up Monero in the post

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          yes, I believe that Tor and Monero are more private/secure than the postal service, just like I believe that 2048-bit RSA is more secure than a padlock

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            Nobody mentioned the postal service? You’re either hallucinating AI slop or a deluded zoomer regurgitating AI slop, and therefore you can go fuck yourself sideways

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              you’re going to have to explain what you meant by dead slave owner portraits. I assumed you meant dollar bills, but if you want to pay Protonmail using cash you need to mail it over, hence the postal service

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                That is indeed a currency with a picture of a dead slave owner on it, got it in one

                I could easily sign up for a protonmail account without mailing anything, that sounds like such sovereign citizen bullcrap I can’t type it out with a straight face XD

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                  the point of the post is about creating accounts anonymously. Try creating a protonmail account using a VPN or Tor, without giving any PII.

                  You were the one that brought up cash, I was simply explaining that sending Monero is often more private than sending cash