I agree that its very hypocritical of the bulk of 2A people to shirk the duty that they’ve been loudly proclaiming they need their guns to execute.
But guns do exactly what I think they do.
You’re worried about societal issues and tribalism?
Those are already here.
You do not live in a functioning democracy, if you live in the US.
The only way you could think that you live in a functioning democracy is if you uh, haven’t read the news in at least a year and a half, if you live in a magical dream world where reality is less important than your fanciful idealism.
There’s a reason all the academic experts in … you know, democracies, in decline, … there’s a reason they all left the country, months ago now.
Who is going to go around and enact your preferred policy?
A … theoretical future administration?
How are we gonna get one of those, that you like, after Trump and ICE disrupt and rig the midterms?
You’re aware that they literally declared anyone who is ‘radically pro-transgender’ to be ‘a type of major terrorist group’ right?
These are the same people that got a fuckton of people fired because they reposted clips of Charlie Kirk sayings Charlie Kirk said, after he died.
I dont think its being naive, I dont live there thank fuck but I have maga family and have visited.
Its just beyond a joke, when will the guns help the situation? It has never happened, bar maybe the black panthers but on a political direction level never. The US is an oligarchy and the people are celebrating, doesnt matter if they have nukes the people are not doing shit.
There are significantly more privately owned firearms in the US… then there are people.
You… would need an actual plan, to make that not be the case.
If your plan is ‘tell the government to go get all the guns’… that, that is the thing that all the stereotypical 2A people will literally start a widespread civil war or terrorism campaign or whatever you wanna call it, to resist giving up their guns.
That’s the doomsday scenario they’ve built their culture around, for… at least 40 years.
Wishful thinking will not accomplish anything.
You are acting as if the guns can just be ctrl-z’d out of existence, as if somebody could just tick a box somewhere, and suddenly hundreds of millions if firearms just… stop existing.
Thats not how this works.
The country is already well on its way to increased factionalism and violence.
The Black Panther still exist by the way. And they do armed marches, stand guard around places.
They don’t use the guns to shoot people, its force projection, it sends a message.
Like all the LGBTQ places that have had armed guards show up, to protect them, after Nazis/Proud Boys/Oath Keepers with guns threaten the club or cafe or whatever.
This kind of thing has been escalating since the George Floyd protests.
We’re beyond the point of ‘now everyone kiss and make up’.
American history is actually full of shit like this, even pretty modern American history.
You’re not gonna make that all go away by simply being exasperated by it.
… So the people should be disarmed and dispossesed so that capital can direct their fates?
They should be disarmed… by the predator in chief?
Are you thinking this through very hard?
ICE is actively shooting innocent civillians, en masse, we’ve got people starving and dying of malnutrition in concentration camps…
And now, now is the time for everyone to give up their guns?
Are you ok, did you hit your head recently?
Your strategy is ‘give up the guns because the Nazis won the government?’
I dont think guns do what you think they do.
I didnt hit my head, I live in a functioning democracy where people who have these armed uprising fantasies are known as children.
In what circumstance are these guns going to become useful because all I see is major societal issues and tribalism.
Its crazy to see what is happening the US and the 2A proponents not doing the thing they have always claimed the 2A was for.
I agree that its very hypocritical of the bulk of 2A people to shirk the duty that they’ve been loudly proclaiming they need their guns to execute.
But guns do exactly what I think they do.
You’re worried about societal issues and tribalism?
Those are already here.
You do not live in a functioning democracy, if you live in the US.
The only way you could think that you live in a functioning democracy is if you uh, haven’t read the news in at least a year and a half, if you live in a magical dream world where reality is less important than your fanciful idealism.
There’s a reason all the academic experts in … you know, democracies, in decline, … there’s a reason they all left the country, months ago now.
Who is going to go around and enact your preferred policy?
A … theoretical future administration?
How are we gonna get one of those, that you like, after Trump and ICE disrupt and rig the midterms?
You’re aware that they literally declared anyone who is ‘radically pro-transgender’ to be ‘a type of major terrorist group’ right?
These are the same people that got a fuckton of people fired because they reposted clips of Charlie Kirk sayings Charlie Kirk said, after he died.
You are literally dangerously naive.
I dont think its being naive, I dont live there thank fuck but I have maga family and have visited.
Its just beyond a joke, when will the guns help the situation? It has never happened, bar maybe the black panthers but on a political direction level never. The US is an oligarchy and the people are celebrating, doesnt matter if they have nukes the people are not doing shit.
Ok so, you don’t live here.
Heres the current situation:
There are significantly more privately owned firearms in the US… then there are people.
You… would need an actual plan, to make that not be the case.
If your plan is ‘tell the government to go get all the guns’… that, that is the thing that all the stereotypical 2A people will literally start a widespread civil war or terrorism campaign or whatever you wanna call it, to resist giving up their guns.
That’s the doomsday scenario they’ve built their culture around, for… at least 40 years.
Wishful thinking will not accomplish anything.
You are acting as if the guns can just be ctrl-z’d out of existence, as if somebody could just tick a box somewhere, and suddenly hundreds of millions if firearms just… stop existing.
Thats not how this works.
The country is already well on its way to increased factionalism and violence.
The Black Panther still exist by the way. And they do armed marches, stand guard around places.
They don’t use the guns to shoot people, its force projection, it sends a message.
Like all the LGBTQ places that have had armed guards show up, to protect them, after Nazis/Proud Boys/Oath Keepers with guns threaten the club or cafe or whatever.
This kind of thing has been escalating since the George Floyd protests.
We’re beyond the point of ‘now everyone kiss and make up’.
American history is actually full of shit like this, even pretty modern American history.
You’re not gonna make that all go away by simply being exasperated by it.
They should give up guns because they are the Nazis.
Are you aware of the concept that a non Nazi can possess a firearm, in the US?