• Jarix@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    They agreed to valves terms when they listed their game. Then they aren’t following the deal, and Valve responds. I don’t see your problem. Valve takes 30%. If the game is less than they are selling it on steam else where and the deal was we will sell your game for you, but you can’t sell it cheaper elsewhere then that’s fair as I see it. “But Steam is Very good so we have to sell it there!” Is not a good argument if that’s being made

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      3 hours ago

      Do valve’s terms dictate they can delist your game if you sell it somewhere else for cheaper?? Even if it is, that’s fucking shitty to have in your terms lmao

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        As I understand it that’s the price everyone pays to use steam. Dont fucking use it if you dont like it. Why is this a problem? Because steam is too good is the only thing I’m hearing and that’s not steams fault. Everyone else has to do the same thing. Valve didn’t hide this. Also note that they didn’t in fact delist it. They merely considered it.

        This is the same problem/argument I had when microtransactions in games started. Everyone jumped on board and now we have a gaming industry that because users can’t fucking say no they bitch and complain when they don’t get what they want.

        Cry me a fucking river. Go sell your game everywhere else but Steam. Too fucking bad.

        Also I have bought literally hundreds of games from other places, cheaper than steam. Many of them I needed steam to download the games…

        Steam isnt doing anything wrong just because they are handsdown the goat of digital distribution. It’s about as anti competitive as Wayne Gretzky was at his best

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      The terms in question being anti competitive. Steam being very good is not an argument against them using there prominent position in the gaming sphere to do the same monopolistic shit Amazon did to enshitify shopping

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      “But Steam is Very good so we have to sell it there!” Is not a good argument if that’s being made.

      That’s it!

      That’s the argument!

      It’s that Steam is so good that Ubisoft has no business choice but to accept Valve’s terms and sell it there.

      It’s literally not viable to sell it cheaper on Ubisoft’s storefront, not to speak of every other gaming storefront in existence: Steam is more essential than all of them put together.

      The pricing is not market driven.

      If that’s not monopolistic, I don’t know what is, and if you still don’t see that I just don’t think we’re going to resolve this disagreement, because our perspectives are light years apart.

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        3 hours ago

        Then Ubisoft is a failed company if they can’t make a product that people want to buy. I have 0 empathy for them.

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          If by “products” you mean games, Ubisoft games are selling just fine on Steam.

          It’s not a function of the product, in this case. But the storefront.

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            That’s entirely on the companies that made the game if they can’t convince people to type ubisoft.com into their browser and buy the game they want just because it’s not on steam.

            Boycott steam if you don’t like this boilerplate deal steam has with everyone else