Some arguments in the thread was that this was some bullshit rumour that was started by neo-nazi admins of dbzer0.com or from some .ml instances.
It’s easy to point fingers and make up rumours, but this is a genuine concern. Whether it’s at lemmy.world or dbzer0.com or anywhere else.
This is the responsibility of the communities to call these people out. Whether they are neo-nazis or zionists, it doesn’t matter. They should not be moderating any instances.
Finally, if there is any real proof of this, can people share it here? Like posts, comments, modlogs?
I’ve been called a liberal and I’ve been called a tankie and I’ve been called an anarkiddie, but it’s the first time someone calls me neo-nazi. I’m apparently all political positions at the same time.
Quick, you better defederate their whole instance! That’s the reasonable thing to do here, or so we are led to believe.
You may be an arnarkiddie (that’s the first one seen the term, and the term is hilarious), but you’re our anarkiddie lol.
Shit. Like you divided by zero or something.
Somehow we’re tankies, anarchists, liberals, hate the DNC, support the DNC, support Trump, funded by China/CIA/Russia, all alts of .ml and hexbear, and support whatever the thing they hate, no matter how much doublethink they do.
Someday people will use their brains. Not today.
Hey look, OP has previously defended Proton for being an explicitly pro-Trump/Nazi company.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59927938/23253473 https://web.archive.org/web/20260428010818/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59927938/23253473
Link given in screenshot: https://tildes.net/~society/1ldg/proton_ceo_tweets_support_for_donald_trumps_department_of_justice_pick_and_the_us_republican_party
YDI
LOL! They’re not pro Trump.
And apparently the CEO made the right call when he said he was in favor of the woman they had picked at the head of the antitrust division. Because she apparently did her job and was later fired for doing so.
YDI.
Would have been better to post in an out of the loop community, because it definitely reads like shit-stirring. Especially “neo-nazi” admins of dbzer0. Like holy shit that’s so far off the mark I have trouble taking it in good faith.
Anyway, I don’t have context about the world admin being a zionist or not. But this comment lays out the rest of the events pretty clearly.
In short: an anarchist.nexus (piefed sister site to dbzer0 being on lemmy) admin set their display name to something intentionally shit stirring like “death to all zionists”. A lemmy.world admin took it personally for some reason, and instead of reaching out to other admins on anarchist.nexus or dbzer0, reporting it, publicly announcing what was going on, or even running it by the other lemmy.world admins first, they just decided on their own to defederate from anarchist.nexus entirely.
As soon as dbzer0/anarchist.nexus admins learned what was going on, the admin with the shit stirring display name stepped down. Lemmy.world has refederated with anarchist.nexus, but the admin that took it personally is still holding onto the threat of defederating from them again.
dbzer0 is currently gathering allies from smaller lemmy and piefed instances to agree to collectively defed from lemmy.world if they follow through on defederating anarchist.nexus again, because this should have been something discussed, not done in the dark at the whim of a single person.
Dbzwro is anti imperialist, ridiculous to call it neo nazi
Can you answer the question with Yes or No? If so, then it’s not an open-ended question.
Inb4 someone says you’re a Zionist.
Why? What are they saying that would cause that?
Edit: wow that modlog, Jesus. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=9312352
Only 3 bans in there, and I think one of them was lifted. Most of the removed comments were sarcastic.
“Haha no I’m just ironic in my hate speech guys”
Let’s take “The Jews are behind everything!”
That was my response to this comment:
There is no civil war. They is israeli backed gangs fighting Hamas
I was mocking what the other guy was saying (in my opinion). I was putting words in his mouth. I thought his trying to blame Israel was ludicrous and was probably driven by anti-Semitism under the guise of “I only hate Zionists.” We’re talking a lot about that today because it might turn out that some of the people doing that are neo-Nazis.
It’s kind of like you just tried to put words in my mouth to mock what I wrote.
The mod considered it might be sarcasm but decided against it. That’s fine. You can’t win them all.
needs context
An admin on world is making waves by saying that calling for the murder of zionists is against its instance’s ToS and the tankie triad instances (including triad-adjacence instances like dbzer0) are losing their shit over it.
It’s quite amusing.
Gross attitude.
Differing viewpoints aren’t gross.
Genocide isn’t a viewpoint unless you’re a monster. piefed.world moment
Correction, an admin on .world is pretending “murder all Zionists” was a direct death threat against them, after they got upset over their parent organisation being called ZioNazi.
The admin hastily acted to defederate an entire instance rather than reach out and talk to anyone. Leading to a days later announcement post by .world with 500+ replies mostly saying how shit .worlds admins acted by members of all instances.
.world meekly walked back the defederation, gave a random mod secret admin access and started banning users en masse.
Note how SMCF didn’t actually read any of this, just angry at people being anti-genocide.
The real genocide is the meanness to .world
They are the real victims 😔
Would you consider murder all zionists to be supporting genocide?
No, no one is born as a Zionist. It is an ideology. No one is born with an ideology, it is taught to them or informed to them with age.
No one took it as supporting genocide when people said Kill All Nazis. No one is born a Nazi. Or fascists in general.
Nazis wanted to purge all Jews (and Romani, disabled, and more), a ethnic and cultural background. Zionists want to purge all Arabs and muslims, a set of cultural and ethnic backgrounds.
You are conflating Zionism with being an ethnic or relgious Jew, an explicitly antisemitic belief. There are anti-zionist Jews, and there are Zionist Christians, Hindus, Germans, Americans, Inidans, and so on.
This is you thinking Jews must inherently need to do this in their holy book or in their blood. That somehow all states that happen to be ran by Jews must do this otherwise something bad will happen to them internally or they will be punished according to the Torah.
You are incredibly gross for this. No one should take you seriously. And I know how much you don’t me personally, so I am reveling in you revealing this. I’ve never once said anything this blindly hateful.
Is Israel not a Zionist state?
Israel is the objective of zionism. It’s the result of the ideology itself.
It is, but people aren’t their nation, the leaders are the heads of state, but not the state. Donald Trump is not America as a person, as much as he shows things about it. Trump said something stupid, does that mean you believe it to be true and must be followed?
And Israel has citizens who probably don’t support the endless wars and being drafted into it. All of Israel isn’t one person. Again, conflating the actions of a philosophy with an ethnic background.
Fucking disgusting person you are.
I don’t think you’re understanding how blanket calling for the murdering of a nation is problematic even if they’re actively involved in their own genocide.
If you genocide genociders you’re still genociding.
No.
Would you consider murder all Nazis to be genocide?
It’s an ideology.
Probably, seeing as he can’t tell the difference.
Zionism is a political ideology, not an immutable characteristic like nationality, ethnicity, etc, so I’d say no. I don’t find it especially productive to say but it’s not hard to see why people feel that way.
