• FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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        America did this shit to itself

        And the civilised world gets dragged into the bullshit

        And before you whine, the majority of Americans are a part of the problem in one way or another

        Your society (for want of a better term) has gotten what it collectively wants

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        You try running into comments thinking they’re the only nation on earth in every health article and see how long you stay sympathetic.

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      Exactly. Functional public health systems will assess patient outcomes and the expenditure in money and resources to determine what treatments get approved.

      The odds are pretty good that - if this works out - this will be on the list of approved treatments straight away. Surgery is an expensive and high-load pathway for public health systems. A non-surgical treatment that gives good outcomes is such a win-win for both patients and public health systems that it almost doesn’t matter how much it costs.

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      Sorry, is this not meant to sound like you’re a Eurocentrist douchebag? Medical care and resources are already not distributed proportionately throughout the world exactly because a small number of nations benefit from a brutally extractive colonial system that requires the dehumanization of other groups to exist.

      The US doesn’t have a fucking healthcare system because it is a settler-colonial, imperialist military power that holds up the capitalist system that Europeans are such proud benefactors of. They violently enforce a system that inflicts as much precarity and vulnerability as possible on its people because it depends on preventing as many unprivileged people as possible from gaining enough resources to muster an effective challenge to its power within the metropole while maintaining its legitimacy to its more privileged working classes.

      So, what the fuck are you bitching about? Americans saying that people won’t be able to afford it? They’re correct, most people will not have access to it so that fucks like you can thanks to the US guarding the loot. Fuck’s sake with you people.

      Edit: Before any Euros try to bitch and whine about how unfair it is that you’re still colonizers, I do not care. I don’t fucking care. We are not going to do this thing where you can bitch about the US and pretend like you aren’t world destroyers for the same exact fucking reason it is. If you are not critical of how many EU and European settler nations have the wealth to sustain a healthcare system and quality of life that makes access to medicine an entitlement instead of a privilege, you’re not a serious person.

      • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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        Australian here

        Fuck off with your whining

        You idiots did this to yourselves, ironically as a collective, because of your worship of the individual over society

        Suck it, yank.

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          Says the guy that just let the trojan horse of age controls behind the walls of their liberal democracy. Get off your high horse mate, it’s time for your colonoscopy to prove you can use the internet so they can craft your social score off of all your information on half baked palantir ai models. Oi oi oi!

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          Not USAmerican. I’m willing to bet your colonizing ass doesn’t even know about Australia, look up Patrick Wolfe.

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        I’m Asian. My country was colonised by Europeans till half a century ago.

        Keep going, this is funny. We’ve gone from ‘America is the only nation on earth’ to ‘oh yeah, Europe exists too’.

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          I’m Eastern European, my country was exploited by USSR until less than 40 years ago. My bad for getting excited about the prospect of being able to walk in old age, it’s all my fault for -checks notes- joining a freedom of trade and movement organisation

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          Maybe orioler25 will figure out that there’s more to the world than only the US and EU :D

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            Reread the comment and tell yourself that a criticism of EuroAmerican global imperialism is without consideration of colonized peoples. This history happened, sorry it compromises whatever power fantasy you have.

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        Waaah they called out my US defaultist ass and now I need to crash out that the Euros built functioning societies waaaaaaaah

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          Hey, how’d they build those “functioning” societies? Got a source? Extra points if you can even cite a decolonial history written by an indigenous person.

          Nice little extra ableism in your comment too, like a good colonizer chud would say.

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            Reeeee anything I don’t like is brutal colonialism! Those damn Irish colonising Ireland! Don’t get me started on the fucking Icelanders! Reeeeeee

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              You’re saying you think it makes you sound smart to suspend your object permanence. Guess a capitalist system with so much wealth concentrated in the EU just happened, it’s just like that. If you want to be in the Colonial League of Doom, every single individual in your country must personally be a rubber baron. Otherwise, you’re valour stealing bastards, actually free from colonialism completely, and a hysterical blue haired SJW.

              I seriously don’t know how you could type this shit and still respect yourself.