• Jake Farm@sopuli.xyz
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    There is a license that says that all derivatives must also be open source.

    But also AI companies don’t care about the law, they stole all their data, engage in insider trading, circular trading, and generating all manner of illegal content, they don’t give a fuck. And the US government isn’t doing anything to hold them accountable, infact the president is getting in on it.

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      they stole all there data

      Obviously fuck the capitalists and AI scammers. But reading and learning from a library, then writing and selling your own book based on that is NOT stealing. It’s the wrong argument.

      The answer obviously is to keep the actual source material and libraries and book archives open and just run open source AI models at home. You can run smaller versions on a solar powered PC no problem.

      The issue with trying to make “AI is just stolen” happen is that it will make open source AI models illegal. AI companies would love that because they can afford to license and pay or work around or obscure or whatever. The “intellectual property” argument is always a disgusting capitalist one. Knowledge is either free or nothing is.

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        But reading and learning from a library, then writing and selling your own book based on that is NOT stealing. It’s the wrong argument.

        A powerful argument if one cannot tell the difference between a person and a product.

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        8 hours ago

        Library implies consent that was not there and access to the public that was not there.

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        Except these people are turning around and burningdown the libraries once they’ve read all the books.

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        But reading and learning from a library, then writing and selling your own book based on that is NOT stealing.

        It could be argued that these AIs are not actually learning but collecting and rearranging. That’s still stealing in my book, especially if it happens on a massive industrial scale and by a megacorp instead of a person.

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      And the US government is doing anything to hold them accountable

      You probably meant “nothing” instead of “anything”?

      Yes, all this is very much the product of the current US admin.