Politically correct billion dollar anti union slop flop… like taking a monster energy drink from a baby. Brought to you by the same Epstein island EA games types. The fallout is going to be glorious. Gaming is for rich folks chasing something they will never catch. If it is not in my hand with no internet then it is not worth my time.
Have you looked at any other hobby? Gaming is still one of the cheapest hobbies. You can buy a game for $5 an have fun with it for a 1000 hours. Meanwhile you aren’t getting anywhere close to a cinema ticket for that, which would only entertain you for 2 hours.
I have my doubts that it’s one of the cheaper hobbies. In my eyes it’s one of the most expensive ones you can have. It has a high entry level cost(if you are a PC gamer likely 1k+), plus a moderate to high upkeep cost(new games @ ~30-70$ depending on quality) to keep in the hobby. It’s also one of the few hobbies where you are expected to upgrade at least every few years in order to stay relevant. Not to mention the cost of any subscriptions you have as part of the hobby such as gamepass, your ISP, humble choice, etc
Most hobbies are a cost to enter, then a relatively small upkeep style cost. For example engineering, fishing, scrapbooking, puzzles, hunting, even crocheting or knitting are all you buy the tool for it, and then maybe spend a yearly cost for new supplies or a license to do the hobby.
Gaming the cost never goes down. You are either buying a new game cause the old one was completed, or upgrading your parts.
You are just making an argument that it’s possible to spend a lot of money on gaming, which is true. It’s possible to spend a lot of money on most hobbies. The question is how much are you required to spend to take part. In the current AI bubble it is more expensive than it should be, but I bought a Steam Deck for $399 when it launched, and there are so many free games you never have to spend a dollar.
Yeah, keeping up with new hardware and latest games will cost you, but you don’t need to do that. Since you bring up fishing, a fishing license you have to renew every year, fishing rod and all required gear, will already cost you many times that amount.
$5 game is still going to require the console or a PC to play on. And if you want to play the latest title with your friends, it’s going to be 1-2k on the hardware before you can even launch the game.
That minimum price tag is going to allow almost any other hobby too
You should understand that terms are relative rather than zero income = normal while any more = rich. I’m currently in an underdeveloped country. I’m aware of what poverty is. But I also understand how words work.
In any case you’re missing the point entirely. Compared to many hobbies, gaming can be affordable. That is what was being discussed here. Besides hobbies like taking walks, you won’t find many that cost less than a few bucks a month.
Well there is your problem, you can’t compare that to gaming as a whole. That’s like saying photography is only for rich people because good lenses can cost thousands, before you even get a camera to attach them to. Which is true, but you don’t need that.
You can take a photo of the same mountain with the latest and fanciest canon or whatever and your grandma’s old film camera, but you can’t play a lot of games with few years old gaming PC
For example my old gaming PC with 1st gen Ryzen and rx6600 while quite new (~2018-2020 I think) is already severely underspecced to play some modern games even on lowest graphics settings. Luckily I don’t have any interest on playing anything except a little classic wow and oats, so don’t really care of upgrading
I very much agree, it’s hard. But I also think that older games are still just as fun. There are whole emulation communities that just play retro games. That’s an extreme example, but gaming is a very wide hobby and whatever your budget it, you can probably find fun stuff to do.
Sure but you can get a cheap second hand PC or a laptop or a console to play that 5 dollars game and it’s a one time purchase.
Shit you don’t even have to pay 5 dollars, there are plenty of games that are free. I’ve been playing Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead for hundreds of hours and haven’t paid a cent since it’s a free game, it’s updated daily and it can run on basically any PC since it’s an ASCII game. This is like complaining that it’s too expensive to get into woodworking because you have to buy a hammer.
And if you want to play the latest title with your friends, it’s going to be 1-2k on the hardware before you can even launch the game.
Get friends that don’t ask you to spend 1000 dollars to hang out with them.
Politically correct billion dollar anti union slop flop… like taking a monster energy drink from a baby. Brought to you by the same Epstein island EA games types. The fallout is going to be glorious. Gaming is for rich folks chasing something they will never catch. If it is not in my hand with no internet then it is not worth my time.
Have you looked at any other hobby? Gaming is still one of the cheapest hobbies. You can buy a game for $5 an have fun with it for a 1000 hours. Meanwhile you aren’t getting anywhere close to a cinema ticket for that, which would only entertain you for 2 hours.
I have my doubts that it’s one of the cheaper hobbies. In my eyes it’s one of the most expensive ones you can have. It has a high entry level cost(if you are a PC gamer likely 1k+), plus a moderate to high upkeep cost(new games @ ~30-70$ depending on quality) to keep in the hobby. It’s also one of the few hobbies where you are expected to upgrade at least every few years in order to stay relevant. Not to mention the cost of any subscriptions you have as part of the hobby such as gamepass, your ISP, humble choice, etc
Most hobbies are a cost to enter, then a relatively small upkeep style cost. For example engineering, fishing, scrapbooking, puzzles, hunting, even crocheting or knitting are all you buy the tool for it, and then maybe spend a yearly cost for new supplies or a license to do the hobby.
Gaming the cost never goes down. You are either buying a new game cause the old one was completed, or upgrading your parts.
You are just making an argument that it’s possible to spend a lot of money on gaming, which is true. It’s possible to spend a lot of money on most hobbies. The question is how much are you required to spend to take part. In the current AI bubble it is more expensive than it should be, but I bought a Steam Deck for $399 when it launched, and there are so many free games you never have to spend a dollar.
Yeah, keeping up with new hardware and latest games will cost you, but you don’t need to do that. Since you bring up fishing, a fishing license you have to renew every year, fishing rod and all required gear, will already cost you many times that amount.
There’s gaming as in games, and then there’s gaming the marketing term. The latter is for rich people.
$5 game is still going to require the console or a PC to play on. And if you want to play the latest title with your friends, it’s going to be 1-2k on the hardware before you can even launch the game.
That minimum price tag is going to allow almost any other hobby too
A $5 game is unlikely to need 1-2k on hardware to launch
Hobbies cost money. Spending $1000 which can last 5-10 years doesn’t make anyone “rich”
Having $1k+ disposable money makes you kinda wealthy though
Not really. It means you can save your money.
You should probably research a bit how much people earn on average, and not just in your own country 😉
You should understand that terms are relative rather than zero income = normal while any more = rich. I’m currently in an underdeveloped country. I’m aware of what poverty is. But I also understand how words work.
In any case you’re missing the point entirely. Compared to many hobbies, gaming can be affordable. That is what was being discussed here. Besides hobbies like taking walks, you won’t find many that cost less than a few bucks a month.
Well there is your problem, you can’t compare that to gaming as a whole. That’s like saying photography is only for rich people because good lenses can cost thousands, before you even get a camera to attach them to. Which is true, but you don’t need that.
You can take a photo of the same mountain with the latest and fanciest canon or whatever and your grandma’s old film camera, but you can’t play a lot of games with few years old gaming PC
For example my old gaming PC with 1st gen Ryzen and rx6600 while quite new (~2018-2020 I think) is already severely underspecced to play some modern games even on lowest graphics settings. Luckily I don’t have any interest on playing anything except a little classic wow and oats, so don’t really care of upgrading
I very much agree, it’s hard. But I also think that older games are still just as fun. There are whole emulation communities that just play retro games. That’s an extreme example, but gaming is a very wide hobby and whatever your budget it, you can probably find fun stuff to do.
Sure but you can get a cheap second hand PC or a laptop or a console to play that 5 dollars game and it’s a one time purchase.
Shit you don’t even have to pay 5 dollars, there are plenty of games that are free. I’ve been playing Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead for hundreds of hours and haven’t paid a cent since it’s a free game, it’s updated daily and it can run on basically any PC since it’s an ASCII game. This is like complaining that it’s too expensive to get into woodworking because you have to buy a hammer.
Get friends that don’t ask you to spend 1000 dollars to hang out with them.
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