Prime Minister Mark Carney argues the war against Iran was justified because it halted Tehran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons. The evidence, Ted Snider writes, suggests otherwise. Iran was not building a bomb, diplomacy had already achieved major concessions, and the war inflicted immense human, economic, and environmental costs.
  • acargitz@lemmy.caOP
    19·
    4 天前

    They do NOT cost us nothing. Here’s a few ways it costs Canada:

    • it justifies illegal warfare and disinhibits military adventurism
    • it undermines international law and international institutions
    • it vindicates extremist and arbitrary militarism as somehow effective
    • it destroys Canada’s credibility and narrows our capacity to intervene in the international stage
    • internally it alienates and marginalizes part of our own population
    • it entrenches conspiratorial thinking and distrust in our democratic institutions

    And I’m not even getting into the ways it costs us because it’s a disgusting and just plain fucking wrong to applaud this completely pointless war that rained down death and suffering to countless innocents, both directly and indirectly.

    And all that for what? For sucking Trump’s dick which he’s already forgotten anyway? Give me a break.

    • HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
      6·
      4 天前

      Well put, full agree.

      Still think Carney is going an overall decent job, and he’s 1,000,000,000,000x better than the conservatives getting in… but this is a big miss.

    • MyBrainHurts@piefed.caEnglish
      4·
      4 天前

      disinhibits military adventurism

      Right… I can see the scene now “Well, I wasn’t sure about going to war but then I remembered the disastrous Iran war and how Canada’s Prime Minister said nice things about it so away we go!”

      • acargitz@lemmy.caOP
        9·
        4 天前

        What a silly thing to say. Of course the Canadian prime minister doesn’t shape reality with his words. But his words matter. When Carney stood up in Davos the world listened. It is the same leader, a leader of a G7 nation, that says this. Other leaders are listening, a discourse is taking form.

        • MyBrainHurts@piefed.caEnglish
          2·
          4 天前

          When Carney stood up in Davos the world listened.

          Yes. Because he had something worthwhile to propose, a framework upon which he has been executing throughout his time as leader.

          Complaining about the Iran war, which is already seen by almost all as a failure is not a particularly worthwhile or novel hill on which to die. Remember when donald had a tantrum about Ford’s mean ads and cancelled trade talks? The unfortunate reality that does shape things is the country to which we send 70% of our exports has a man child president.

          Not to mention that one of the biggest threats to any sort of peace is literally donald’s ego

          Thinking that any leader or any serious politician is taking this as Carney’s actual position is just nonsense. You cannot watch the Collins question and answer in their entirety and say that’s a man who really backs what trump did.