I know many people are pushing Linux but imagine having to train basic users on another OS after decades on Windows? It’s fine for your home lab, but blows ass for a windows shop
its not about making sense, there are plenty of system settings in the settings app. Moving to the setting app was about getting the minimum shippable set of settings into it, anything that is left in the control panel is there because it was high effort for them to untangle (or in some cases the expertise to untangle it is no long at Microsoft). They keep saying eventually the Control Panel will be retired, but its a long and expensive process
Honestly, I don’t think so. I saw people do both, I helped people do both. Especially if you go with KDE, for a developed Windows user learning how to do random OS maintenance on Linux is often easier than to understand what they fucked up in 11. For not a poweruser it’s even less complicated, you’re asking your IT guy anyway, as long as all your tasks are being done it doesn’t matter.
It wasn’t the same when people were going from 7 to 10.
Uh if your employees can’t learn a slightly different interface that can be made to be almost identical to windows you should fire them. They suck and said employees are fucked on the job market.
IDK, some asshole recommended one of my elderly family members a chromebook, he can’t adapt to it, and lost the admin password. Windows 10 shoves shovelware and random updates on his computer confusing him anyway, do you really think LMDE is going to be that much harder to understand than having to explain to him where the fuck avast antivirus came from?
I couldn’t figure it out either. It manages to break so many conventions, and not in a good way. “Installing” an app might mean something close to a traditional install (but only it knows where things are installed to). Or it could mean creating a web shortcut… Also, where the fuck are my files? Where is anything?? Is it even on my machine?! Words are supposed to have meaning! What the fuck, google??
I’m relatively old, and spent some time teaching people how to use computers, both as a job and voluntarily. I don’t do that anymore as much, but there are a lot of people who continue using me as tech support because I like helping people.
My mom is nearly 80, pre-school teacher by education. She converted from Windows 10 to Linux with me giving her instructions on the phone, and even since the amount of problems she need my help with fell by at least an order of magnitude. Meanwhile her librarian friend converted to 11 and she needs help constantly, even though she was able to use 10.
I really wished I saved the thread but there was a great post on Reddit back in the day of a sysadmin that successfully move his entire company to OpenSUSE
I know many people are pushing Linux but imagine having to train basic users on another OS after decades on Windows? It’s fine for your home lab, but blows ass for a windows shop
But every version of windows requires training because they keep changing crap for no reason.
As in why the split between settings and control panel. Why the nonstop start menu changes? And so forth
Having separate interfaces for user settings and system settings makes sense for companies that prevent users from changing system settings.
The Start Menu shit… probably just a strategy to get people to use bing.
its not about making sense, there are plenty of system settings in the settings app. Moving to the setting app was about getting the minimum shippable set of settings into it, anything that is left in the control panel is there because it was high effort for them to untangle (or in some cases the expertise to untangle it is no long at Microsoft). They keep saying eventually the Control Panel will be retired, but its a long and expensive process
They both contain both types of settings, though.
Windows 10 to 11 is a much simpler jump than 10 to Ubuntu.
Honestly, I don’t think so. I saw people do both, I helped people do both. Especially if you go with KDE, for a developed Windows user learning how to do random OS maintenance on Linux is often easier than to understand what they fucked up in 11. For not a poweruser it’s even less complicated, you’re asking your IT guy anyway, as long as all your tasks are being done it doesn’t matter.
It wasn’t the same when people were going from 7 to 10.
Someone just needs to built a “Explorer shell” that’ll make it seamless. Of course, Microsoft would go scorched Earth if that happened.
Uh if your employees can’t learn a slightly different interface that can be made to be almost identical to windows you should fire them. They suck and said employees are fucked on the job market.
IDK, some asshole recommended one of my elderly family members a chromebook, he can’t adapt to it, and lost the admin password. Windows 10 shoves shovelware and random updates on his computer confusing him anyway, do you really think LMDE is going to be that much harder to understand than having to explain to him where the fuck avast antivirus came from?
How is losing the admin password related to the functionality of the OS in any way?
It’s called storytelling. Not all the details are essential to the idea, they are there to paint a picture.
Lol OK.
ChromeOS 🤮
I couldn’t figure it out either. It manages to break so many conventions, and not in a good way. “Installing” an app might mean something close to a traditional install (but only it knows where things are installed to). Or it could mean creating a web shortcut… Also, where the fuck are my files? Where is anything?? Is it even on my machine?! Words are supposed to have meaning! What the fuck, google??
if it’s a problem that linux is unfamiliar, then don’t worry because windows 11 is a bigger change from 10 than modern kde linux
It’s so much easier than you think, it’s not even funny
You must be young, spry, and tech savvy.
I’m relatively old, and spent some time teaching people how to use computers, both as a job and voluntarily. I don’t do that anymore as much, but there are a lot of people who continue using me as tech support because I like helping people.
My mom is nearly 80, pre-school teacher by education. She converted from Windows 10 to Linux with me giving her instructions on the phone, and even since the amount of problems she need my help with fell by at least an order of magnitude. Meanwhile her librarian friend converted to 11 and she needs help constantly, even though she was able to use 10.
I’d say it is worse trying to find replacement for software not available on Linux and trying to adjust/learn the new workflow when you do.
On the other hand, a lot of software I wanted was primarily Linux, so that was nice when I switched.
I really wished I saved the thread but there was a great post on Reddit back in the day of a sysadmin that successfully move his entire company to OpenSUSEI fond it lol: https://web.archive.org/web/20220128145708/https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/sesmwr/finished_a_full_corporate_migration_from_windows/
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