• Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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    2 hours ago

    I am genuinely curious to know who is framing the war between Russia and Ukraine as genocide. My understanding is Ukraine views it as imperialism and Russia views it as liberating people who are Russian from Ukrainian rule (if we are talking about Crimea/Donbas) or stopping Ukraine from doing some sort of evil, I’m not totally clear on this one.

    First Congo War is debatable but before I expand on that I want to make sure you understand the war happened after the 1994 genocide? You are referring to a second genocide? (Not debating if the mass killing during the war counted as genocide, just wanting to make sure we are talking about the same thing).

    Bosnia genocide I don’t think I need to reply further because I agree it wasn’t started to do genocide.

    East Timor: disagree. There was a civil war because of how the colonial power left (one could say by design) and Indonesia saw it as an annexation opportunity. It wasn’t a war between two established states in response to intention to commit genocide.

    Bangladesh: I don’t think I know who the military who opposed Pakistan was?

    WWII: My point has been no allied power cared about liebestraum until it threatened their own borders/colonial interests. If we go back to the comment I was replying to, the person was talking about one country defending itself against another because they thought they didn’t deserve to live because of their world view, sexuality or colour of skin. I suppose if you stretch world view into believing they should be allowed to live their life in peace then sure that applies. I can’t argue with that one.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      59 minutes ago

      one country defending itself against another because they thought they didn’t deserve to live because of their world view, sexuality or colour of skin.

      You’ve since added the requirements that the invader needed to state their genocidal intention beforehand, and that both countries need to be recognized states that have some as-yet unstated time period of independence.

      Since you’re constantly shifting the goalposts, it’s impossible to meet your requirements…