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This and the electoral college. Even 12 year old me was like this shit is fucked right?? Only to be told by adults how stupid I was… smh
I’m glad I was never told this. The benefits of being from a large state I guess
Thats so naive. Anyone who can look at the general population and conclude there is something call maturity is lying to themselves.
When I was young people around me told me that the further west on the map country is, the wealthiest and more free people live there without any conflict bothering them. With USA (the west-most country on map) as a shiny utopia with everyone peacefully living there being rich and free.
When I was a teen and my country joined EU I saw countless young adults emigrate west, seeking wealth and freedom beyond anyone’s wildest dreams. Terrorists and oppressive regimes waged war in the eastern lands.
When I am an adult, the supposed peacekeeper of the world is waging wars to protect pedophiles. Former empire where sun never sets is trying to outlaw being young and sell their citizens data to highest bidder. And EU is bi-yearly trying to pass universal invigilation act.
I feel like my moral compass never really changed, it’s just the world around me that changed beyond recognition. I worry how it will be when I get old, if I even get to live to old age.
Hang in there, buddy, it’s rough but we are all in this together.
The police are made to oppress your own citizens while the military is made to oppress foreign citizens
AntiPK
You will get the murder and destruction when you grow up kid. It all makes sense once you become part of the machine /S
What’s even more wild is to ask a religious leader for a religion that says “don’t kill people” about how killing people in a war isn’t a sin. I was only a child when I saw one of my peers ask a priest this. The mental gymnastics the priest was trying to pull was blatantly obvious to me, even as a kid.
Some people genuinely deserve it. So here is the best-intent version in all its escalating absurdity:
The problem is who gets to crown themselves the judge of who deserves to die, which is why judicial systems exist, but who assigns the judges? So then you need an external mandate or a consensus mechanism in place, long story short, you get a ruler with a divine mandate, a parliament/jury consensus system, or an AI swarm convergence mechanism depending on the era you’re currently crossing.
But then you can’t trial the chief of another tribe/country/swarm for crimes they committed which aren’t wrong at all according to their values, like say, a Muslim marrying a first cousin wouldn’t be doing something wrong according to their moral system, but it would be a big taboo in the USA and the west. So if you’re say, a pious chieftain, and you wanted to take the stuff from the next tribe over, just start thinking smart, think of the letter not the spirit. You got all you need.
And now you know why an army is a national survival necessity, and why even religions themselves aren’t safe from a politician, whom they sometimes have to kill.
But what if they believe in another Sky Daddy than you?
Surely that is reason to end lives, even though I believe my Sky Daddy will judge anyone without need for my humble intervention for him to do so.
Or what if they don’t conform to iron age middle eastern moral standards? Surely they then deserve to die, no?
Hopefully very obvious /s
Apparently not. Sarcasm is hard nowadays 😔
I was once asked why I joined the military and my answer was ‘l needed money’. This seemed to shock my companion who was astounded that I was willing to potentially kill people over money. My response was that it was a far better reason than for imaginary friends or the colour of their skin.
Still a terrible reason and it makes you an awful person to be a mercenary for imperialism to kill innocents for bourgeois profits.
Never denied I was an awful person. Also, not in the American military.
Canada isn’t any better. Edit: Why is this being down voted when the comment under is being upvoted I looked at their profile they are candadian they say this multiple times.
They also didn’t say Canada
Looked at their profile they live in Canada say they are Canadian that’s why I said that.
Like Albania’s any improvement.
Yeah well I think because they have some sense of (perverted) morals behind it, while you were doing it just for profit.
Same thing with profiteering, entrepreneurism, “the need for growth” etc, basically all the bullshit our education system forced on us to justify capitalism and making the rich richer.
Like, no, definitely when I grew up I would somehow understand that its OK to screw people over and hoard resources for one stinky asshole while millions of people starve and die of curable diseases? Loooool nope obvious lie is obvious. I’m here now and I feel old and tired, choosing to fuck people over is still wrong and trashy.
I’d be less bitter about it if so many other people hadn’t bought into it…
It’s just their divine right to own everything and still squeeze us for more 🤷♀️
Joining a military that aggresses other nations? Yeah, spot on. Joining a military to defend your line on the ground against people you see as fellow earthlings? Still a fair take. Joining a military to defend against people who want you dead because of how you were born? That’s where this starts to unravel. That kind of stuff sadly exists in this world.
My aha moment was at a museum on an air base when I realized that everything there was designed around killing people. Sure, the technology was cool but I couldn’t celebrate the purpose. I really don’t support our military anymore, unfortunately I know it’s a necessary evil in the current world.
Perhaps necessary, but how necessary? And how much is necessary?
So many absurd things that I was told “you’ll understand/agree when you’re older” that turned out to just be boomer copium.
No, I don’t hate taxes (the opposite). No, I’m not more conservative (the opposite).
One thing I’ve noticed about boomers is the constant TV on in the background. Very commonly FOX news, or newsmax these days, cnn, etc. Their world view is absolutely shaped by their media diet.
Meanwhile, our generation has always had the Internet. We view the world through that lens, which has a bit more of an expanded view, especially since people from those “scary” countries can come on places like reddit and post. Which is why I think the push for AI has been so strong. Now the Epstein class have some sort of means to taint what we read online, slowly moving our own worldview to the one the boomers have had from their own propaganda. It used to take owning the news stations to push their agenda, but now they had to pivot to now posting via bots to get their messages in.
All this to say, I think we had a nice gap where a kinder worldview emerged for some generations, but I worry that the generation growing up with the internet how it is becoming is going to slip back into the boomer thinking if it continues this way.
Their strategy for corrupting the youth has been promoting a vapid hyper capitalist hustle culture and signal boosting influencers who embody that depravity. However, unlike the boomers of yore, the economy we face is terrible and only getting worse, with none of us having any personal wealth left to protect. They’re going hard into fascism in an effort to redirect the anger, but even that has a limited half life. Eventually they’re gonna need to start cannibalizing each other in mass movements against other elites, because we need somebody to pay and they need to make it not them. I forsee war in some form as an inevitability.
As someone pointed out, this is understandable if you’re from the USA.
Otherwise, I see it like this:
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Every country has an army.
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Their own, or the one of another country.
The baseline is that going to war is bad, having a defensive army is absolutely not (and will prevent deaths as russia won’t dare attack you).
Having a formidable army has clearly not deterred global superpowers from attacking you, especially if they get too cocky like in Iran and Ukraine
Neither Ukraine nor Iran had a “formidable” army when they were attacked.
Russia was supposedly the second army in the world too.
Iran has long possessed the ability to survive decapitation and respond to an existential threat by closing the strait. It’s why no US President tried it before now. Ukraine was more of a surprise than Iran, but Russia not realizing that their own neighbor wouldn’t be a pushover the second time was still a danger that they could’ve foreseen. In both cases, deterrence didn’t work because the invaders were greedy and irrationally confident.
And?
Still didn’t have “formidable” armies.
And sincerely your “being cocky” smells like kremlin apology sauce, you sincerely don’t think Ukraine is at fault in any kind of way for the 2014 invasion or the 2022 full scale invasion?
Sometimes, but do you let your neighbor waltz in and subjugate you?
I have a standing subjugation appointment with my neighbor every Thursday in fact. Don’t knock it til you try it.
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Stop murdering each other. Agreed. It is possible to stop aggressors without systematically murdering people. We have invested so much resources throughout history into perfectioning murder. But so little to explore ways of war without murder.
How would you solve the war in Ukraine without murder?
We need to force world leaders to fight to the death in a gladiatorial arena. Only then will we have world peace
