• SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    6 hours ago

    If a fighting force assembles when its home country is attacked and disbands once they’re no longer being invaded, it hardly feels like “the military” at that point. That’s not how it works these days, at least in most places.

    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      5 hours ago

      That’s a little naïve, isn’t it? Your fighting force isn’t trained, doesn’t have any equipment and so on, more people will die because of this.

      • Zombie@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        Switzerland has conscription for men and voluntary service for women over 19. They receive military training and are issued a service weapon. They then return to civilian life, with the idea being the population is now an armed militia in the case of invasion.

        It seems to have worked out for them so far, surviving being right in the middle of 2 world wars.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Government_and_politics scroll down from there to Military

        • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          28 minutes ago

          That training is funded from the Swiss military budget for the purpose of protecting the state of Switzerland? Suggesting that conscription, aka a mandatory military service term, is akin to a training program for stateless militias seems to me a bit of a stretch…

          • Zombie@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 minutes ago

            If a fighting force assembles when its home country is attacked and disbands once they’re no longer being invaded, it hardly feels like “the military” at that point. That’s not how it works these days, at least in most places.

            I’m pro abolition of the state, but this comment thread had no mention of a stateless society.

        • napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          4 hours ago

          It seems to have worked out for them so far, surviving being right in the middle of 2 world wars.

          Their conscription system is only a part of the story. Switzerland was not invaded in WW2 because:

          A. it is geographically difficult to invade, has a lot of bunkers and armed people.

          B. because the Nazis used it to exchange gold and currency to Swiss Francs and get free access to trade with neutral countries. Switzerland was more useful to Germany as a “banker” and middleman during trade embargoes than it could have ever been as occupied territory.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_during_World_War_I_and_World_War_II#Financial_relationships_with_Nazi_Germany

        • zaphod@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          4 hours ago

          I know about Switzerland, they have a military with conscription. Lots of countries in Europe are currently considering reintroducing conscription, but that’s not some random fighting force that assembles out of nowhere in times of need, it’s still a military.