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        11 hours ago

        why would an individual car “train” that can go anywhere (eg. train tracks on all roads for self driving cars) be shitter than a train that has limited availability and is extremely restrictive in where it can go?

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          9 hours ago

          Because you have to pay a good chunk of a year’s salary for one, store it around your house somewhere, and then when you finally do get to use it, there are a million other people with the same idea and you have to compete just for space in which to use it.

          And that’s before you get to all the maintenance the government has to spend on the paths (and make you pay tax for all that). Oh, and it’s incredibly dangerous, so dangerous that it’s one of the leading causes of death in the US.

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            9 hours ago

            We are talking about an equivalent ‘pod/train car’, not a car but I’ll bite anyway

            Have you ever been on a train? It sucks, a bus 10000% more, buses fuckin suck so much, I’m sorry for you to hear this in the echo chamber which features ‘fuck cars’.

            Like I said, trains and buses have 2 big negatives:

            limited availability and is extremely restrictive in where it can go

            Trains especially so, my local train would be a 20-30 minute walk away and it goes far south and to the city, if i don’t want to go to either of those I’m in for a 5 hour marathon of a trip at best

            But we should invest more in trains you might be saying, and again the question goes back to, why would a train be better than a pod/car that can roll around on train tracks

            This whole thread took the original meaning and warped it into a circle jerk about trains which is not what the OP was saying

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              Sure badly built or unprioritized public transit infrastructure might suck, but busses and trains sure are amazing when prioritised, built correctly.

              Many European cities combine well functioning train, bus and cycle infrastructure, which together makes it possible to go anywhere at any time for cheap.

              I think it really just comes down to prioritizing to develop the infrastructure (costs money and requires political will to move away from car based infrastructure).

              Also I don’t think a pod system would solve any of the problems of either cars or trains/busses and would be much more expensive…

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                6 hours ago

                can you name all these European cities combining well functioning train, bus and cycle infrastructure outside of the netherlands? (where the average person/household does not have a car as they don’t need it)

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                  5 hours ago

                  Public transportation seemed to work well in Brussels, Paris, Prague, Copenhagen, and even Edinburgh. Just thinking of the last few cities I was in outside of the Netherlands (leaving out the USA, which is obviously a nightmare for transportation of all kinds). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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              6 hours ago

              Buses are the worst (actually, pneumatic tyred ‘trams’ are the worst)

              Trains are great though.

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                5 hours ago

                yeah tbh i was being a bit hyperbolic, i don’t mind my train trip to work despite it being slow af

                but it would take an insane public transport network to service south east queensland, until we find an infinite money glitch it’s only going to be used for a minimum viable amount of very popular trips, eg between brisbane and the gold coast and soon the sunshine coast

                but for example if you want to go to crows nest from brisbane there will never be a train that goes that way because of low numbers