Tech giant Oracle is suing the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin over financial requirements that regulators approved to protect ratepayers as developers build a $15 billion data center campus to expand its AI initiatives.
You’re missing the point so hard it’s not even funny.
The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.
The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).
Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won’t have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.
Data centers have been around forever. Supercomputers and other large racks of computer hardware have been housed in them for decades. They have done a lot of good for research.
Even if you didn’t have AWS and the like modern sites/tech products need a lot more hardware than your random desktop computer to work. And that needs to be housed somewhere.
The AI ones they’re trying to build now to try and stack tech feudal territory? Probably not. I don’t think the demand is gonna be there long term.
Even if you didn’t have AWS and the like modern sites/tech products need a lot more hardware than your random desktop computer to work. And that needs to be housed somewhere.
They really don’t, everything is just hideously inefficient these days.
They really don’t, everything is just hideously inefficient these days.
Because for ~30 years hardware, microchips, memory, and storage kept improving faster than programming best practices. As a result we have bloated applications with poor memory management. In the coming hardware famines I hope to see this trend reverse course.
You see, investors sincerely believe that AI has value and more AI has more value. How do you create more AI? More data centers!
So now you have several hundred multimillionaires and billionaires, with almost zero understanding of what AI is, what it’s useful for and what it’s not useful for, but they believe with all their heart , more data centers makes wealth go up.
Now they are buying up land, with money they borrowed, to build data centers, with hardware that hasn’t been manufactured yet all to potentially realize financial gains that are backed by nothing but speculation and emotion.
This is what happens when you give the market fomo. Invent something magical that you don’t understand the inner workings of (a literal mechanical Turk).
The problem was that after the pandemic and crypto, too many investors were itching for a gold rush that would simply just replace the disgusting working class. I mean, they were already but that shit made them extra hungry.
You wonder, do data centers do any good at all? Some using tons of pure drinkable water is also bad.
Datacenters? Yes, to an extent. They enable things like the modern internet, public goods like Wikipedia, etc.
AI datacenters? No.
70% of the modern internet is bots botting for bots
i’ll take the drinking water
The internet isn’t taking your drinking water
5 years ago sure
how do you think ai being used today? most ai isnt locally hosted
The internet and AI are two different things.
The internet wasn’t taking your drinking water 5 years ago and it’s not taking it today.
lol the internet is 70% bot traffic today
wanna bet more and more of that is ai driven?
You’re missing the point so hard it’s not even funny.
The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.
The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).
Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won’t have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.
yea no
you wanna ignore what is actual reality and play pretend go for it but i’m not interested in hearing about it
The things using the internet is irrelevant. The fact remains that the internet itself is not taking your drinking water
i’m always amazed how it can be so hard for some people to think beyond whatever is immediately in their face
70% of the internet traffic is the fucking internet
just because you don’t like that doesn’t matter
They WERE 2 different things, not anymore.
No they are still two very different things.
Data centers have been around forever. Supercomputers and other large racks of computer hardware have been housed in them for decades. They have done a lot of good for research.
Even if you didn’t have AWS and the like modern sites/tech products need a lot more hardware than your random desktop computer to work. And that needs to be housed somewhere.
The AI ones they’re trying to build now to try and stack tech feudal territory? Probably not. I don’t think the demand is gonna be there long term.
They really don’t, everything is just hideously inefficient these days.
Because for ~30 years hardware, microchips, memory, and storage kept improving faster than programming best practices. As a result we have bloated applications with poor memory management. In the coming hardware famines I hope to see this trend reverse course.
You see, investors sincerely believe that AI has value and more AI has more value. How do you create more AI? More data centers!
So now you have several hundred multimillionaires and billionaires, with almost zero understanding of what AI is, what it’s useful for and what it’s not useful for, but they believe with all their heart , more data centers makes wealth go up.
Now they are buying up land, with money they borrowed, to build data centers, with hardware that hasn’t been manufactured yet all to potentially realize financial gains that are backed by nothing but speculation and emotion.
This is what happens when you give the market fomo. Invent something magical that you don’t understand the inner workings of (a literal mechanical Turk).
The problem was that after the pandemic and crypto, too many investors were itching for a gold rush that would simply just replace the disgusting working class. I mean, they were already but that shit made them extra hungry.
Guarantee not the ones owned by Oracle.
Oh?
🤣