Right? I saw the gladiator movie, and I saw the DaVinciCode movie. It’s just people in fucking Rome, running and fighting. These people have names, and fucking hair, and ears too. They’re the same movie. Such cheese.
Is it clueless audience’s fault that her superhero name sucks? Because I’m sure I’m not the only one that completely avoids female superhero movies/shows with stupid unoriginal names like “super girl” and “she hulk”.
The story that introduced the character was drawn by Al Plastino and written by Otto Binder. Years earlier, Binder had co-created Mary Marvel, the sister of Captain Marvel.[4] Like Supergirl, Mary Marvel was a teenage female version of an adult male superhero, wearing a costume that was identical to the older character’s other than substituting a short skirt for tight trousers. (Binder also created Marvel Comics’ Miss America, a superhero who shared little other than the name with her sometime co-star Captain America.)
Its seems rather explicit - she was invented because the comic book creators wanted a femme superman - and so copy pasted the idea
Im not saying its right, im actually thinking that it is sexist and a product and fad of its era - and to erase it with retconned lore glosses over the very real human issues we face as a society that dimmenishes femme content as simply masc-in-drag content - im sure the modern movie is more timely and modern in its perspective - but to ignore the origins and further to insult the correct assumption i think is invalid
You don’t get it. Their backstory and personality is way below who the character is at the top level. Their name is supergirl, a copy of superman. Their outfit is exactly the same as superman, but now with a skirt. They presumably have a similar origin story of getting their powers from being at least partially kryptonian, with nearly all the same range of powers and weaknesses.
It’s lame. Making a female variation of an existing male character is weak at a fundamental level that can’t be overcome. A good character is original, not a variation copy
And it’s a woman living in the shadow of a man, which seems completely counterintuitive to supporting women. Like I want it to exist because we absolutely need more feminine voices, faces, and ideas in the comic and movie spaces, but this comes off like opportunistic 1:1 copypasta written by a man and a focus group.
I’ll also preface that I’m not familiar with the Supergirl comics but I’m sure they’re far better and more nuanced. Perhaps the whole point is that she’s taking back a normally masculine symbol and making it her own. But based on what I’ve seen of the film, it’s not doing a stellar job of conveying that.
Yup, supergirl may’ve been feminist for its time, but at this point in history it’s anti-feminist. A woman character should be her own fully original being, not a female variation of an existing man.
Hah i didn’t know about that last part, but yeah exactly perfect example. Wonder Woman is her own original self. And there’s plenty more fully originals, Black Widow, Phoenix, Invisible Woman, Storm, Jubilee, Emma Frost, Captain Marvel, Scarlett Witch, Rouge, and on and on.
Congratulations, you have openly admitted that you know nothing about the character.
Right? I saw the gladiator movie, and I saw the DaVinciCode movie. It’s just people in fucking Rome, running and fighting. These people have names, and fucking hair, and ears too. They’re the same movie. Such cheese.
That isn’t even the impression the trailer gives.
Is it clueless audience’s fault that her superhero name sucks? Because I’m sure I’m not the only one that completely avoids female superhero movies/shows with stupid unoriginal names like “super girl” and “she hulk”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl
Its seems rather explicit - she was invented because the comic book creators wanted a femme superman - and so copy pasted the idea
Im not saying its right, im actually thinking that it is sexist and a product and fad of its era - and to erase it with retconned lore glosses over the very real human issues we face as a society that dimmenishes femme content as simply masc-in-drag content - im sure the modern movie is more timely and modern in its perspective - but to ignore the origins and further to insult the correct assumption i think is invalid
She has had decades of stories and development since then that have made her distinctly not “Superman, but a girl“
You don’t get it. Their backstory and personality is way below who the character is at the top level. Their name is supergirl, a copy of superman. Their outfit is exactly the same as superman, but now with a skirt. They presumably have a similar origin story of getting their powers from being at least partially kryptonian, with nearly all the same range of powers and weaknesses.
It’s lame. Making a female variation of an existing male character is weak at a fundamental level that can’t be overcome. A good character is original, not a variation copy
And it’s a woman living in the shadow of a man, which seems completely counterintuitive to supporting women. Like I want it to exist because we absolutely need more feminine voices, faces, and ideas in the comic and movie spaces, but this comes off like opportunistic 1:1 copypasta written by a man and a focus group.
I’ll also preface that I’m not familiar with the Supergirl comics but I’m sure they’re far better and more nuanced. Perhaps the whole point is that she’s taking back a normally masculine symbol and making it her own. But based on what I’ve seen of the film, it’s not doing a stellar job of conveying that.
Yup, supergirl may’ve been feminist for its time, but at this point in history it’s anti-feminist. A woman character should be her own fully original being, not a female variation of an existing man.
Wonder Woman was (is still) feminist for its time. They just had to make it that her only weakness was if she got bound or shackled by a man.
Hah i didn’t know about that last part, but yeah exactly perfect example. Wonder Woman is her own original self. And there’s plenty more fully originals, Black Widow, Phoenix, Invisible Woman, Storm, Jubilee, Emma Frost, Captain Marvel, Scarlett Witch, Rouge, and on and on.