- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
- games@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
- games@lemmy.world
People don’t even want you to play a video game in private now.
"Gibbons cut in: “They’re illegal. They are not in any way affiliated with Microsoft. Microsoft, for Minecraft, has gotten a lot of criticism because of those community servers not employing the same safety standards that Microsoft does on their Minecraft servers.”
People really ought to be held legally accountable for explicitly lying in situations like this. Lying to legislators should be illegal just like lying to the courts is purjury
[…] and just to clear this up right away: what she said was nonsense. You can, literally right now, head over to the official Minecraft website and download a .jar file to let you run your own private server.
I love how confidently stupid and wrong she was here.
What I fucking hate is this pattern of attacks on open source and self-hosting we’ve been seeing. Anthropic’s CEO saying that open source self-hosted LLMs are “dangerous” for example.
Oh but they are VERY dangerous. Dangerous for the 1%’s wealth. What will they do if they have to downsize their billion dollar yachts???
But the thing is? They’re not. Billionaires would still be billionaires without attacking open source and self hosting.
The problem is that billionaires are hungry ghosts. It’s not enough to be fabulously wealthy, they just want more. Forever.
I know. I was being facetious.
It’s not just open source and self-hosting. They’re going after Steam because they actually treat their customers well. Despite still not truly owning your games on their, you basically do. As long as Steam is good, gamers won’t forget that services can be good, and we can’t have that, can we?
I hadn’t heard of Steam being dragged into this. Just let us have some nice things!
For real. I think it ended up being alright, but they sued Valve because of gambling in Counter Strike‽ Like, have they never heard of Overwatch‽
Meanwhile, “Epic” Games profits off of kids who sneak their parents’ credit cards for whatever nonsense is going on in Fortnite, and Roblox is full of predators!
All of those, including Counter Strike, are preying on addiction and should either be illegal or at least regulated
Yes. This is a classic case of a large company buying an open source product that was specifically designed to get children to be creative and build their own worlds and then deciding that such usage is illegal unless you pay loads of money.
A perfect snapshot of enshitification.
Minecraft was never open source.
I think that would count as enclosure
Open source LLMs are very dangerous for their bottom line, they have all the same problems as non open source LLMs and the shareholders don’t even make money off of them!
That woman is very angering.
You would think that an organization like this would have a better understanding than the average person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Software_Association
The Entertainment Software Association (ESA) is the trade association of the video game industry in the United States. It was formed in April 1994 as the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA)[1] and renamed on July 21, 2003. It is based in Washington, D.C.[2][3] Most of the top publishers in the video game industry (or their American subsidiaries) are members of the ESA.
They “understand” just fine. They’re trying to normalize the destruction of property rights on purpose because they absolutely loathe the idea of anyone not continuously paying them rentier fees for absolutely nothing in return.
They are evil and must be destroyed.
That’s fine. If property rights don’t exist then there’s no legal basis to charge us with anything if we burn their houses and businesses down. We just need to make sure they’re unoccupied at the time.
Wait, unoccupied?
hides trebuchet with fire balls.
Must just be the nutty people in charge now?
Just rich people doing rich people things.
For a moment I was so confused as to why the European Space Agency is attacking Minecraft servers.
I’ll fix title.
In that case, it seems i am guilty of piracy already, guess i might as well start indulging.
lol

Not privacy related.
Edit: Some people are apparently very delusional. It’s sad, since having proper discussions in spaces like this one becomes almost impossible because of that. I will no longer reply to anything on this comment that fits the category of delusion.
It literally is about privacy, they are trying to stop you from having your own private server.
It is about the ESA misunderstanding Microsoft’s and Mojang’s license agreement, nothing more.
It still belongs in privacy. It’s about trying to stop private game servers. That is going against privacy! Learn the word!

So in your definition a private company has to do with privacy? I recommend you take a dictionary and follow your own advice.
Dude, are you not reading any of the comments towards you? You are completely wrong. You set up your own private server to be private! Take your own advice. Apparently, you have no idea what the definition even is.
Please do not feed the trolls.
You are completely wrong.
Based on what? You haven’t provided anything objective that contradicts my argument.
I have been telling you the whole time! Having a private server is actually about privacy.
Minecraft has chat control enabled by default where any player can report another, have the chat send to Microsoft after which they (or an ai) can decide to ban you from accessing any servers at all.
Private servers are the only way to block that and create a chat that is safe to use (ironically)
This is absolutely about privacy.
Minecraft has chat control enabled by default (…)
What chat control are you talking about?
Private servers are the only way to block that and create a chat that is safe to use (ironically)
You shouldn’t be talking about private content in Minecraft at all, as the chat is inherently insecure. Private server or not.
The one where any random player can report another for any reason and have a portion of the chatlog (without consent of any others) send to Microsoft.
For reference i have some members on my adult server who like to joke sell sugar as cocaine. There is no info on what actually counts to ban-able, it might just be ai that decides at this point.
Also there used to be secret library Minecraft servers in china with banned books and thats why there is a separate chinese Minecraft edition now with social media features and all players are identified with all chats monitored.
“Just don’t type anything private” is not an argument i expect seeing on a privacy community either. Sounds a lot like “if you have nothing to hide”
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The official Minecraft website has an article about a public, private server run by reporters without borders.
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/uncensored-library
https://www.uncensoredlibrary.com/en
For obvious reasons many copies of this server And predecessors that existed/may operate within oppressive areas do not advertise their existence online.
Wiki entry of minecraft china edition.
https://minecraft.wiki/w/China_Edition
Tap for spoiler
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Free to download
- Valid Chinese citizen ID required to play
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Friends system, with live text chat support
- Text content in-game may be moderated, such as chat, Book and Quills, Written Books, Signs, Command Blocks, renamed items (via Anvils) and mobs (via renamed Spawn Eggs or Name Tags)
- Moderation is also applied to in-launcher content, such as community posts, comments on contents, and private messages. Rental servers and virtual LAN games are not allowed to have names altogether, instead being referred to by a numerical ID
The argument about minecraft chat being inherently insecure is a straw-man at best. A private server, whitelisted for my own household that runs on hardware that i own is just as secure as any other speech that happens in my living room.
There is no reason for microsoft to have the ability to steal logs to moderate it. And this is why almost every respectable server i know uses plugins to block that shit.
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Oh oh, you are chatting on here, that’s not very secure either, compared to your stupid ass logic.
Of course it is
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That guy sucks dude, a supposed IT specialist with a shitty website.
I’m not gonna call bullshit on them for having a shitty website, lots of IT people are too lazy to make a good website; hell the entire open source ecosystem runs on IT people with shitty websites.
I’ll call bullshit on them by invoking Hitchens’ Razor on their argument: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. This is extra ironic considering Hitchens’ many unsubstantiated criticisms of socialism.
Check my profile.
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Bully Madison
LOL, this is came up as Bully Madison.


It totally is.
All AI content looks like this dream I had; it was weird fucking Donald Trump, you know from Home Alone 2 became president.
I just use it for shits and giggles. I don’t actually depend on it. Like those people that make ai music. Yuck!
Let them eat AI generated cake!
I thought only kids played minecraft. Are there really still that many adults playing a children’s game?
What makes it a children’s game? Is it the lack of graphic violence and sexual content?
That’s like being surprised adults play with legos. Same thing except it’s digital.
That’s like being surprised adults play with legos.
Which doesn’t change my attitude about adults playing children’s video games at all. LMAO
Define “children’s video game”
Some of us have been playing it since before it was popular with children!
Wait til you head about what happened with Mario Kart
Bite your tongue, it’s Tux Cart! 😁
It’s not just about one game like Minecraft.
The alphas will eat all that shit gladly



















