Fedora’s top governance body says the Community Initiatives framework no longer provides an effective path for major project goals.
  • A Sharky Anthro@fedia.io
    5·
    30 minutes ago

    I thought about how much you wanted a manifestation of extractive capitalism in your PC and got the ick. The way they handled this critical decision was very Microslop in nature, they didn’t pose this to the community and have a proper discussion about it beforehand. That is very troubling, and not how Fedora normally operates. It’s good that this got canned, as a healthy community is better than what AI Chuds want. Always.

  • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io
    20·
    4 hours ago

    The Fedora Council has paused the Community Initiatives process, stating that the current framework no longer effectively supports identifying, discussing, and advancing major strategic efforts.

    Importantly, already approved Community Initiatives will continue.

    Going forward, the Fedora Council says it wants to develop a new mechanism for setting strategic direction in a more open and transparent way, with stronger community involvement earlier in the process.

    Context: Fedora’s AI Developer Desktop Was Approved, Then Blocked. Here’s Why. & Heavy Community Backlash Blocks Fedora’s AI Developer Desktop Initiative

    Seems like it is primarily a technical backlash about having to support another kernel branch for stability with proprietary nvidia drivers. A bit of pushback on AI branding. But also

    Part of what made this blow up the way it did was a communications gap. Fabio Valentini of the FESCo noted that he only became aware the proposal was being voted on after stumbling across the council meeting on Matrix accidentally.

  • [object Object]@lemmy.ca
    10·
    4 hours ago

    If you don’t want the AI features don’t use them

    I do want a good file system embedding plugin for semantic search, image categorization and content recognition, better OCR, etc. I can run all those locally for less energy than playing a video game and wasting zero water, but a good OS integration would be game changer.

    There are definitely things to say against AI, but the anti-AI crowd can sometimes be incredibly short sighted and assholishly militant.

  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
    10·
    4 hours ago

    According to the Fedora Council, the AI Developer Desktop proposal exposed deeper problems with the current process. The Council said the Community Initiatives framework has failed to provide a good space where new ideas can surface, receive respectful feedback, and gain support when they fit Fedora’s present or future direction.

    As a first step, the Fedora Council will immediately pause the Community Initiatives process. This pause affects only the process, not overall Fedora development.

    Sure reads like “we don’t care if the entire community is against it, we’re doing this anyway and there won’t be any new features until we finish”

    • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      44 minutes ago

      the AI Developer Desktop proposal is closed under this process

      Instead, the Fedora Council says that if the AI Desktop work matures, it can follow the existing path toward becoming an official Fedora offering. That would first require a Council ticket for trademark and branding approval, followed by a Fedora Change Proposal for technical review by FESCo. Until then, the proposal remains an independent exploration rather than an official Fedora offering.

  • Tixo@lemmy.zip
    17·
    5 hours ago

    I was thinking to test fedora for some time … now i dont know I want to …

    • rozodru@piefed.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      I mean you can try it. I’ve used it briefly in the past but moved on from it because it’s a damn frustratingly opinionated distro with a community that gives the GNOME user/dev base a run for their money.

      It works well enough. some things you really got to play with to get working on it. If you’re on Nvidia I’d just save yourself the headache and skip it. If you want a distro you can install and just completely forget about and just use flatpaks or whatever, yeah it’s good.

      • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
        10·
        2 hours ago

        why? bevause they gave people an option that dorsnt affect anyone else?

        It always starts like this. I criticized the initial optional and ai features in Firefox. People said “oh its just this one time in the PDF” and so on. What happened? Mozilla added more and more Ai functionality, to a point where they had to integrate a kill switch because so many were bothered by. Also even if you disable all the features, it affects you in some way. Because now they will not integrate an alternative feature without the need of Ai. That means if you disable Ai, you miss out on features otherwise. And it takes lot of resources and development time from the team for stuff you don’t care.

        Therefore I do not accept the defense of “it is optional, it does not affect you” for these various reasons I just outlined.

      • Tixo@lemmy.zip
        6·
        3 hours ago

        Its a sign of whats to come sooner or later. Look at ubuntu. I am using arch right now, loved ubuntu in the past, but that has became a shitshow to say the least. Now I wanted a changed and was looking heavily at fedora, but Im afraid i will settle down and It will end up with something from that project being integrated in the main distro. Idk just my thoughts.