• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
    17·
    5 hours ago

    This argument against socialism has always made no sense, the only way it holds is as a critique of capitalism.

    Money doesn’t disappear, either its circulation in a sustainable way…

    Or someone is hoarding it… like a capitalist.

  • ivan@piefed.socialEnglish
    8·
    6 hours ago

    Meanwhile, biggest cooperatively owned businesses around the world usually switched to that form of ownership due to withdrawal of state subsidies, like New Zealand’s farmer cooperative, or Argentinian businesses where workers just all chimed in to buy out their “bankrupt” workplaces and set them back on their feet.

  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.worldEnglish
    2·
    5 hours ago

    If the company owners aren’t making money they’ll shut down and we’ll all be out of a job so we should be happy they’re only charging eighty-five percent.

  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
    3·
    6 hours ago

    Hmm, the biggest problem I have with socialism is that you end up with government committees deciding who gets access to basic needs like food, water and medical care, when, where and how much. Attempts to plan out fair distribution for an entire country become brittle and inflexible, and result in scarcity and waste because human life is not static. Well-intentioned socialist governments become authoritarian out of the desire to control the behavior of the population in order to stabilize the plan, but the efforts to control inevitably create more instability.

    • Protoknuckles@lemmy.world
      11·
      5 hours ago

      That is literally happening under capitalism. You buy health insurance, and a private Healthcare group motivated by profit decides if you get medical care.

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
      9·
      5 hours ago

      Your one step away from reinventing communism and 2 from discovering decentralised anarchism as the real answer.

      Controlling a nation is power. The people who control the nation have more power than other citizens, they form a political class.

      Communism seeks to create a classless society but its main flaw (which is actually a reasonable perspective in historical context and the technology of then) is that it still held on to the idea of having a state, a centralised leadership.

      But technology has evolved, anyone can interact with any group through digital means. Anyone can share knowledge or document and publish problematic events in their local area.

      Building a network of decentralised neighbourhoods where all citizens are welcome to join the local political debates (and multi local joined sittings) is possible.

      There is no need why a few chosen people have to have all the power.