• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    It’s dogmatism and purity politics because China already taxes capitalists. The level of taxation already reflects what the people of China deem to be necessary, without harming growth. Unlike capitalist economies, capitalists do not control the state, nor where capital can be allocated, and as such there is some degree of benefit to allowing capitalists to the extent that they facilitate development. Letting these arbitrary goalposts stand in the way of supporting China is nonsense.

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      6 hours ago

      You think there’s an economic benefit to allowing someone to hoard wealth above a billion? I mean in comparison if a bigger portion of the wealth from the company was distributed to the workers.

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        There’s clear economic benefit to allowing private property in secondary and highly competitive industries in the context of a socialist market economy. This accelerates and stabilizes growth, which speeds up development of the socialist economy in general. This comes with the tradeoff of having capitalists, which means coming with the tradeoff of the wealthy. You’re letting arbitrary minutia in how these capitalists are taxed pit you against the entire socialist system.

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          5 hours ago

          Clear economic benefit to allowing the capitalists to hoard above a billion?

          Another thing I wonder if you’d be okay with some sort of wealth cap in some point

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            Why 1 billion and not 900 million? Why not 3 billion? I’m not against a wealth cap, I’m against arbitrary and vibes-based reasons for opposing China’s socialist market economy. I also support the DPRK’s economy.

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                3 hours ago

                If China decided to implement a wage or wealth cap down the line, I wouldn’t use that as a reason to object to their economic project. Plus, they have access to more economic data than we do and would be better able to identify the consequences of implementing one.

                Just because I’m not against a wage cap doesn’t mean I am obsessed with the idea of implementing one. A wage cap is just a form of taxation, it does little to nothing to address societal problems relating to relations of production and distribution. What is important to me is that China maintains the socialist road and continues to iteratively improve, not whether or not it picks a different tax structure.

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                Just because I’m not against a wealth cap doesn’t mean I am obsessed with the idea of implementing one. A wealth cap is just a form of taxation, it does little to nothing to address societal problems relating to relations of production and distribution. What is important to me is that China maintains the socialist road and continues to iteratively improve, not whether or not it picks a different tax structure.

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                  You’d agree with a wage cap but can’t think of where to set it, not even approximately? Does that mean the number is very high or just a vague idea?