But regardless, I’m not sure what alternative you’re left with when the people committing heinous acts take in profits instead of prison sentences. Especially for someone like Trump, who is actively making the world worse and more unsafe in a myriad of ways, it’s clear he will never receive justice, nor will he ever willingly leave office. How else do you see people no longer suffering his “leadership”? I mean, I’m still hoping he keels over from natural causes, but it’s still a wish for him to keel over.
UHC CEO is a different position than OpenAI CEO. I dont defend Luigi Magione personally, but Sam Altman isn’t a Healthcare CEO using shady business tricks and denying people healthcare which (which can end up killing them). Also in your poll, 45% isn’t the majority.
And Gen Z also isn’t representative for society in general. Young people often tend to have more extreme takes
Open AI? The company whos product has helped and encouraged multiple people (primarily teenagers) to commit suicide?
If putting the appropriate gaurdrails and safety systems in place to prevent this kind of output from your product is avoided because it eats too much into your profit margin i would say thats fairly sinister decision making.
Right! Facebook making a whole business model around exploitation of teenage girls’ body image issues pretty much proved the point to me that they’re here to eat our children.
They are putting guardrails down but the technology is statistical probability of tokens. The longer a conversation goes the more the technology goes off the path. I do think the companies should take some responsibility and compensate for incidents but killing the CEO doesn’t remove the technology and only adds one death. The teenager that killed themself doesn’t come back to life.
The CEO of Palantir has a fucked up world-view but he’s mostly building tools for the government. The demands for general privacy should be strengthened to the government. If police can actually research crimes faster and it helps them catch criminals there can be an argument for them. Doesn’t really make up for the lost privacy but such software exists and is bound to be developed, just depends who develops them and with which guidelines. Software for the military is nothing new. Their AI for picking targets to strike is ethically questionable even if humans give the final say. He could probably be considered legitimate military target by adversaries that are struck using his technology. In general weapon development or military advancements are a certain gray area. The US DoD is really overfunded tho. The US doesn’t need bases in the entire world to protect its citizens. 1 tn dollars a year is crazy. Imagine how much good you could do with even half of that. I don’t think killing him changes anything and its also a form of self-justice. I do not believe I am mandated to just go up to a man and kill them. Is Palantir an ethical company? Probably not. But I think he’s not a war-criminal by developing a software platform and having a questionable world-view. My cry for democracy is to use whats left of democracy to change things the right way. Thats how MLK won the people over. Thats how societal change is done properly.
Its an ideal we need to strive for. Protect and fight for democracy or lose it. Once you fight disagreements with extrajudicial means the stability erodes for everyone. I don’t care if people call me idealist. If you follow the categorical imperative its pretty clear honestly. You guys just want it the (supposed) easy way. But thats not the proper way. And it also won’t be easy as with violence factions arise. I country in which violence is a normal means to resolve disagreement will arise. You know how Jan 6th rioters wanted to hang Pence? And actually killed officers in service? This type of crooked behavior will also become more common
You’re almost there. Fight for democracy. The Nazis are in charge now and they’re fundamentally dismantling our democratic institutions. These CEOs are instrumental in this dismantling, there’s no more peaceful protests that will reverse this course. We’ve fought Nazis before, we’ll do it again.
If the tipping point was reached where there is no way to revert with non-violent means then a systematic approach could be logical. But i don’t think that point has been crossed.
If, somehow this next midterm election goes well, then maybe there’s a mild chance at a more peaceful methods. I doubt it. It’ll be business as usual in a few years. The next round of fascism will be elected in the next election, another neoliberal supporting genocide will be on the Democratic ticket and another round of madness of fascism ensues. Frankly, the US as a democracy has been officially dead since the Supreme Court gave the president immunity from anything. How can you run a democracy with such power in one person?
There’s undercover thugs kidnapping and murdering people. There’s a president making $6 million a day from illegal trading. There’s a new focus on domestic left wing “terrorism”. But not a peep from the masses. It’s business as usual, as always.
Idealism can be anchored in reality. No principle truly exists unless in the heads of us all. You’re a kid for wanting to kill people over disagreements. Of course I knew you’d at some point insult me personally, I’m on lemmy after all. Most concepts don’t exist in reality, companies and money don’t exist in reality. Countries don’t exist in reality. Except when enough people believe in it it becomes real. But thats above your pay grade. You don’t get it do you? Get lost. I see democracy eroding every fucking day. And I am doing my part to stop it (I obviously can’t save it myself). Again I believe all the words have been spoken. Nothing left to say. Get lost.
It can’t, though. Expecting things to be different from the way they’ve literally always been is idealistic bullshit detached from reality. “Could and should” will never exist, there simply is how things actually work, and things have literally never worked as you claim they do and should.
Learn some actual history, if you don’t then you will only ever be a piece on their game board of propaganda.
Naw idr which one, but an ai ceo almost word for aord said they dont want to lose customers to suicide, but the fact that their model can be so open and frank is why its good.
I think you’re wrong about being in the social majority… https://www.axios.com/2025/01/09/luigi-mangione-approval-poll-gen-z
But regardless, I’m not sure what alternative you’re left with when the people committing heinous acts take in profits instead of prison sentences. Especially for someone like Trump, who is actively making the world worse and more unsafe in a myriad of ways, it’s clear he will never receive justice, nor will he ever willingly leave office. How else do you see people no longer suffering his “leadership”? I mean, I’m still hoping he keels over from natural causes, but it’s still a wish for him to keel over.
UHC CEO is a different position than OpenAI CEO. I dont defend Luigi Magione personally, but Sam Altman isn’t a Healthcare CEO using shady business tricks and denying people healthcare which (which can end up killing them). Also in your poll, 45% isn’t the majority.
And Gen Z also isn’t representative for society in general. Young people often tend to have more extreme takes
Open AI? The company whos product has helped and encouraged multiple people (primarily teenagers) to commit suicide?
If putting the appropriate gaurdrails and safety systems in place to prevent this kind of output from your product is avoided because it eats too much into your profit margin i would say thats fairly sinister decision making.
Ok, how about CEO of palantir?
Right! Facebook making a whole business model around exploitation of teenage girls’ body image issues pretty much proved the point to me that they’re here to eat our children.
They are putting guardrails down but the technology is statistical probability of tokens. The longer a conversation goes the more the technology goes off the path. I do think the companies should take some responsibility and compensate for incidents but killing the CEO doesn’t remove the technology and only adds one death. The teenager that killed themself doesn’t come back to life.
The CEO of Palantir has a fucked up world-view but he’s mostly building tools for the government. The demands for general privacy should be strengthened to the government. If police can actually research crimes faster and it helps them catch criminals there can be an argument for them. Doesn’t really make up for the lost privacy but such software exists and is bound to be developed, just depends who develops them and with which guidelines. Software for the military is nothing new. Their AI for picking targets to strike is ethically questionable even if humans give the final say. He could probably be considered legitimate military target by adversaries that are struck using his technology. In general weapon development or military advancements are a certain gray area. The US DoD is really overfunded tho. The US doesn’t need bases in the entire world to protect its citizens. 1 tn dollars a year is crazy. Imagine how much good you could do with even half of that. I don’t think killing him changes anything and its also a form of self-justice. I do not believe I am mandated to just go up to a man and kill them. Is Palantir an ethical company? Probably not. But I think he’s not a war-criminal by developing a software platform and having a questionable world-view. My cry for democracy is to use whats left of democracy to change things the right way. Thats how MLK won the people over. Thats how societal change is done properly.
The CIA said mlk had gay boy lovers and threw gay swinger parties before they ended up killing him you idiot.
Now there is Ai that does that for the likes of peter thiel. You go out there and be the next MLK if that’s what you want to happen to you.
So detached from reality. You love the “official narrative” so very much.
Its an ideal we need to strive for. Protect and fight for democracy or lose it. Once you fight disagreements with extrajudicial means the stability erodes for everyone. I don’t care if people call me idealist. If you follow the categorical imperative its pretty clear honestly. You guys just want it the (supposed) easy way. But thats not the proper way. And it also won’t be easy as with violence factions arise. I country in which violence is a normal means to resolve disagreement will arise. You know how Jan 6th rioters wanted to hang Pence? And actually killed officers in service? This type of crooked behavior will also become more common
You’re almost there. Fight for democracy. The Nazis are in charge now and they’re fundamentally dismantling our democratic institutions. These CEOs are instrumental in this dismantling, there’s no more peaceful protests that will reverse this course. We’ve fought Nazis before, we’ll do it again.
If the tipping point was reached where there is no way to revert with non-violent means then a systematic approach could be logical. But i don’t think that point has been crossed.
If, somehow this next midterm election goes well, then maybe there’s a mild chance at a more peaceful methods. I doubt it. It’ll be business as usual in a few years. The next round of fascism will be elected in the next election, another neoliberal supporting genocide will be on the Democratic ticket and another round of madness of fascism ensues. Frankly, the US as a democracy has been officially dead since the Supreme Court gave the president immunity from anything. How can you run a democracy with such power in one person?
There’s undercover thugs kidnapping and murdering people. There’s a president making $6 million a day from illegal trading. There’s a new focus on domestic left wing “terrorism”. But not a peep from the masses. It’s business as usual, as always.
Idealism can go get fucked, we need reality based solutions. Again, you’re a god damned child.
Idealism can be anchored in reality. No principle truly exists unless in the heads of us all. You’re a kid for wanting to kill people over disagreements. Of course I knew you’d at some point insult me personally, I’m on lemmy after all. Most concepts don’t exist in reality, companies and money don’t exist in reality. Countries don’t exist in reality. Except when enough people believe in it it becomes real. But thats above your pay grade. You don’t get it do you? Get lost. I see democracy eroding every fucking day. And I am doing my part to stop it (I obviously can’t save it myself). Again I believe all the words have been spoken. Nothing left to say. Get lost.
You talk so fucking confidently for someone so fucking wrong. So many words to defend your tired childish view.
It can’t, though. Expecting things to be different from the way they’ve literally always been is idealistic bullshit detached from reality. “Could and should” will never exist, there simply is how things actually work, and things have literally never worked as you claim they do and should.
Learn some actual history, if you don’t then you will only ever be a piece on their game board of propaganda.
Naw idr which one, but an ai ceo almost word for aord said they dont want to lose customers to suicide, but the fact that their model can be so open and frank is why its good.