Ubuntu is the leading distro, if I’m not mistaken. It’s also compatible with Mint, Zorin, Xubuntu, etc, which are another leading distros than Fedora. Is it only for redhat users or secondary distro?
Not enough people in here mentioning how nice a base vanilla DE experience is. I love vanilla gnome and it’s so refreshing to set up a fresh fedora install and have it so clean.
Ubuntu (which is based on Debian) can be too slow to adopt newer software.
Arch on the other side is too quick.
Fedora is a good balance in-between.
Nearly all other distros are derived from these 3 families.
That and Ubuntu’s obsession with Snaps is unhealthy. So many people recommend Debian or Mint over Ubuntu, if you want something very stable.
Interesting I would have assumed it was slower than Ubuntu in comparison given it’s association with RHEL but looking it up it’s sort of their “tip of the spear” when it comes to release testing. TIL
I was going to say, Fedora is not trying to push a bunch of snap apps up the users ass.
I just switched from PopOS (Ubuntu) to Nobara (Fedora) and I fucking love it. Its a perfect middle ground between bleeding edge Arch and slow to adopt Ubuntu. Also, flatpack.
If you are comfortable using fedora or if you are fine learning about fedora, use fedora.
I personally wouldn’t use Ubuntu with it’s recent controversy in specific the “explicit AI features” planned to be implemented within ubuntu. I’d suggest avoiding it out of privacy concerns even if it runs locally on your system.
the general trend for AI adoption, is to make it accessible for anyone to onboard, and then slowly control the users by (for example) making users connect to their servers to use their chatbot which then they can train, and have a better profile of you.
Canonical never mentioned that, in fact they mentioned quite the inverse. but any implementation of an AI chatbot, Tech companies aren’t doing it because of how revolutionary AI is. The AI is the product and your data is what they want.
I’m not saying canonical is pursuing that initiative, but that’s generally how it goes for most tech companies. Don’t take my word for it, ask yourself, “what service does Ubuntu provide? what financial backing (sponsorships) do they have?” I’ve looked far and wide and the only thing I’ve found is, they offer a free OS install as their consumer grade product, and a subscription service to their enterprise network that is clearly not a sustainable business model (from an engineering perspective) for a multi-thousand employee company.
Go ahead and try Ubuntu and let me know how much you love their “App Store” experience. So many broken apps in their Snap store.
Fedora just works. Ubuntu is like the Windows of Linux. They think they know better than their users and, as such, try to force feed you the things they think are better, even when they’re worse.
Ubuntu is based off of Debian, just use Debian instead.
Canonical sucks.
The only reason is f*ck snap and Ubuntu for forcing it onto users
Ubuntu is the most broken distro I have ever used. From when it first came out until today.
Pick anything over Ubuntu.
I do really like fedora. If you want the latest stuff as fast as a rolling distro, with zero update issues, you want fedora.
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the corporate side of Red Hat is far less evident on Fedora than Canonical’s on Ubuntu
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vanilla UX
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Atomic editions
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fast yet stable updates
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more lightweight ISO
it also has disadvantages, specially for nontechnical folks
- Free Software Policy (NVIDIA drivers and some codecs not pre-installed)
- non LTS version available (Atomic desktops are easier to manage if keeping un-updated for very long periods)
- it uses RPM packages which are good, but there might be some software only offering DEBs (containers and extraction tools can help with that)
- non LTS version available (Atomic desktops are easier to manage if keeping un-updated for very long periods)
Fedora is a semi-rolling release distribution, so this isn’t really a problem for a desktop or laptop. It’s really an advantage for desktops and laptops.
- it uses RPM packages which are good, but there might be some software only offering DEBs (containers and extraction tools can help with that)
A lot of software is packaged as a Flatpak image, so less of a problem then it used to be.
If you want LTS, you would pick something like RockyLinux. They offer support for 10 years per release.
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Personally, I really like dnf over apt, SELinux over apparmor, and firewalld over ufw, but it’s all personal preference.
I second all of this.
I prefer Fedora over Ubuntu because they are more up to date and put Flatpak over Snap.
But the real reason I originally switched was that the Ubuntu installer crashed 5 times in a row and then I tried Fedora and liked it
Canonical.
I’m curious why you’d say that. Ubuntu has made some weird decisions.
I dislike their DE. Snaps where a flop buy the vision was ambitious and cool if it had worked. And Id prefer a gnu system utils. But those are just reasons I don’t use it.
So if you like a Ubuntu derivative, they’re a fine vanilla distros. And they’ve always had deep ties with the FLOSS community and they are one of the primary reason we have a Linux desktop. So not sure I get the hate.
I meant canonical is RhE best reason not to choose ubuntu.
Right, they provide the funding for the developers keeping one of the most accessible distros going so whats the problem?
Canonical’s engineering is poor. They build weird stuff, and they want to close Linux off through CLA and permissive licenses. They aren’t a trust worthy company.
RH does more. RH is Linux for all intents and purposes.
Fedora is better. At one time, Ubuntu was good, but that was 20 years ago. The Fedora community has done a great job of stepping up to make it a great desktop distribution.
I can’t recall the history exactly, but Red Hat was once free. Then it seems like I recall CentOS or Fedora replacing it as the FOSS fork. I’m old and my memory sucks. Anyone else recall?
Yeah, RH Linux was free at one point. I remember getting CDs with a book in the ‘90s and when it was discontinued in favor of RHEL.
Fedora was supposed to be the replacement for RH Linux. It was supposed to be what CentOS is today, a close upstream for RHEL, but the Fedora community had other ideas. 🙂
I think with that argument its better to point out Fedora has taken pains to isolate itself from Redhat/IBM. Because while IBM has historically had great engineering, they are not know for great licensing. In fact the basically destroyed and entire enterprise ecosystem recently with the licensing changes to RHEL.
Yeah, the Fedora community revolted when RH tried to force Fedora to be what they wanted, and RH left Fedora to the community after that. 😆
Moving CentOS upstream of RHEL? That was a good thing. RHEL didn’t have a true upstream, and now that is CentOS. The RHEL and the clones now have a central place to upstream code, and they now are the EL ecosystem instead of only RHEL. It’s created more diversity and has added more options.
For example, Alma doesn’t have to be bug-for-bug compatible with RHEL. They can carry their own patches and add features which their base wants and only be binary compatible.
Getting dumped on but I genuinely just want to know. 🤷
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Another user mentioned a handful of benefits. I would add that Fedora is more secure than Ubuntu or any of the derivatives you mentioned out of the box. In fact, it’s more secure than most other regular Linux distros.
I also like that it uses vanilla versions of Gnome and KDE. They leave the customization to the end user.
Speaking of KDE, if you prefer it, there are few distros that do it better. Maybe OpenSUSE Tubleweed or
Open Mandriva ROME. For me, Fedora KDE Plasma fits my needs almost perfectly.Finally, I think the installer is way better. Ubuntu’s has become less flexible over the years. Fedora’s is still super easy but offers a lot more options.
The one potential drawback I can think of is that official versions of some software are only available as a .deb. That’s more and more rare in my experience.
I recently learned that OpenMandriva’s president (warning, lunduke link as evidence) has declared the project “non-woke” and “anti-DEI”, which has resulted in it attracting a hard right community. IMO, a good reason to avoid it.
i lost a lot of brain cells reading through that second link and i’d like them back
Ahh good to know! Such a shame.
There’s at least Mageia still carrying the Mandrake/Mandriva torch without that baggage :)
