• fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    To that point kingdom come deliverence does that really well, first you have the “from nothing” starts but also because of birth you just can’t be everything. You are, unfairly, limited in what you can really do, even if you can become godlike in what you are allowed to be.

    Fallout one does a good job with this because of the timer, and travel. You are always just one person doing what they can.

    The worst case is definitely where a game is made to be a god splatter but for some reason it’s not just hard but punishing narratively like youre making a mistake. That’s no fun to me.

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    2 days ago

    Look there’s always been plenty of sad story elements to the Fallout games, but sometimes they lean way too hard in the direction of “every outcome is depressing and there is no good option”.

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    I think that misses the point of the series though, or at least 3 and 4. The point is that you become the god that saved or destroyed the wasteland. You become the legend for the next generation.

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      3 and 4 are genuinely the low point of the series and misinterpreted a lot from the original games. New Vegas was a lot closer to the original games. Yes, you can do heroic or terrible things, but I saw the franchise as very much an exploration of human nature during a time where people needed to scrounge and rebuild to survive. In the old games, resources are scarce and you have to make ethically gray choices. There’s not enough to go around, genuinely.

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          13 hours ago

          And yet, New Vegas is widely considered the best of the 3D Fallout games. A more complex experience that makes you make tough decisions, that makes for a better RPG and a better story.

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              12 hours ago

              I don’t think that’s really the case. New Vegas is constantly praised online, even on something like metacritic, which I take w/ a grain of salt generally, the user scores for NV are notably higher than 3 or 4.

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                12 hours ago

                That’s generally how cult classics work. You see praise for The Big Lebowski because those that don’t like it mostly ignore it.