I think there’s going to have to be a long drawn out transitional period both technologically and socially.
We’d probably need some sort of socialist state in between, and to replace corporations, and eventually other forms of private enterprise, with employee owned and ran co-ops.
You’re right to say something as complex a chip fabrication would go out the window if we tried to do this overnight, but I’d like to think localized manufacturing will get us at some point in the mid-to-distant future.
I think there’s going to have to be a long drawn out transitional period both technologically and socially.
We’d probably need some sort of socialist state in between, and to replace corporations, and eventually other forms of private enterprise, with employee owned and ran co-ops.
People couldn’t effectively work together at a societal scale to prevent the spread of COVID-19, I have zero expectation that I’ll see anything other than small incremental changes in society as climate change continues to steamroll the world
Ya, that’s basically it. I like the idea but it’s not possible at our current technological level. Tbh, I dont think it ever will be because of the defense issue. Once we reach a level where comfortable self sufficient societies are possible, how do you defend against China or Russia and it’s daily output of drones?
Another commenter mentioned having collectives organised in bigger bodies which would then join other bodies. I feel like the whole system is about small communities having ultimate governance on themselves. So I don’t think such a body could tax or force a small community in Spain for instance to donate resources for a war in Ukraine.
Any political system is possible these days if you give yourself leeway to buy some stuff globally and people are patient enough about it, but most including anarchism would really leave any individual community or collective to the whims of what ever is bigger around them. Whole organised countries with standing armies get bullied constantly. I’d rather something like communism with a flavor of anarchism for smaller communities but 100% independent (which is how I understand it but I might be wrong) is just not feasible imo.
I think if manufacturing gets hyper-localized enough nations go out the window as a concept after a while.
National Governments have a lot less leverage when your town can make all the shit it needs by itself.
Like I said though, realistically Democratic socialism will be large, potentially multiple-century stepping stone to that, assuming we get there and that we haven’t figured out something better.
There’s still the issue of locality. Even with very advanced tech not every location could source the necessary materials for everything. This means you’d need to figure out how to have a globalized trade system at the same time.
Better tech is always going to help but unfortunately tech alone can not make this work.
I think there’s going to have to be a long drawn out transitional period both technologically and socially.
We’d probably need some sort of socialist state in between, and to replace corporations, and eventually other forms of private enterprise, with employee owned and ran co-ops.
You’re right to say something as complex a chip fabrication would go out the window if we tried to do this overnight, but I’d like to think localized manufacturing will get us at some point in the mid-to-distant future.
People couldn’t effectively work together at a societal scale to prevent the spread of COVID-19, I have zero expectation that I’ll see anything other than small incremental changes in society as climate change continues to steamroll the world
Ya, that’s basically it. I like the idea but it’s not possible at our current technological level. Tbh, I dont think it ever will be because of the defense issue. Once we reach a level where comfortable self sufficient societies are possible, how do you defend against China or Russia and it’s daily output of drones?
Another commenter mentioned having collectives organised in bigger bodies which would then join other bodies. I feel like the whole system is about small communities having ultimate governance on themselves. So I don’t think such a body could tax or force a small community in Spain for instance to donate resources for a war in Ukraine.
Any political system is possible these days if you give yourself leeway to buy some stuff globally and people are patient enough about it, but most including anarchism would really leave any individual community or collective to the whims of what ever is bigger around them. Whole organised countries with standing armies get bullied constantly. I’d rather something like communism with a flavor of anarchism for smaller communities but 100% independent (which is how I understand it but I might be wrong) is just not feasible imo.
I think if manufacturing gets hyper-localized enough nations go out the window as a concept after a while.
National Governments have a lot less leverage when your town can make all the shit it needs by itself.
Like I said though, realistically Democratic socialism will be large, potentially multiple-century stepping stone to that, assuming we get there and that we haven’t figured out something better.
There’s still the issue of locality. Even with very advanced tech not every location could source the necessary materials for everything. This means you’d need to figure out how to have a globalized trade system at the same time.
Better tech is always going to help but unfortunately tech alone can not make this work.