cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/fediverse/p/1066667/tesseract-dev-injects-malicious-code-into-browser-to-illegally-ddos-the-dbzer0-instance
As part of the devs farewell message on their site, they have included malicious code to make each visitor sends 2,000 requests to the dbzer0 servers in an attempt to DDOS and take the instance offline.
Making memes and fun of a shitty block list is not illegal.
Cyber crime, as awesome as it sounds , however is illegal. Not that we would want to bring cops into anything.
Yeah I’m actually hoping they aren’t prosecuted. Cybercrime sentences are insane and this is clearly a case where someone needs help, not prison.
Nah, you don’t get away with actions when you take the mental energy to do them instead of just logging off. No one forced him to DDOS, he chose to. Actions have consequences.
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? What do you even know of the story if that’s your take…? They were being doxxed, getting death threats, harassed, etc.
Lemmy users never want to be held accountable for their actions, but love calling others out *shrug*
If you think it was just jokes and memes, you need to actually read into the details
What they did isn’t okay, but the response to that from the Lemmy users was equally unacceptable, and their response here is the middle finger.
They know nothing is likely to happen, because who’s gonna press charges? The people that also did illegal shit that started it…? Seriously lmfao.
By definition, you can’t privately doxx someone, and I’ve found no evidence that anyone doxxed him. Sounds like BS.
If true, yeah that’s a crime. He should report it.
This is too vague. I dint doubt he got messages about what a dick he was, secretly forcing his ideals onto others without letting them know. I 100% believe that happened, but I 100% disagree that is harassment. I also 100% believe he would call it harassment out of convenience. He definitely seems like a very fragile individual.
I do need to ask, if I claimed some random thing while ddosing you, would you believe me?
i’ve been having a grand ol’ time skimming the tea threads and i haven’t seen a single instance of death threats or doxxing. not that it’s not happening, but that’s FAR from the general public response here.
Uhhh…Evidence?
Uhh… their goodbye post where they lay it out? That’s what this post is based on… and taken from…?
Or are you only seeing the one side of the story you choose to see and ignoring the other? Sounds typical of Lemmy users to be honest, so that’s rhetorical.
The very same ‘goodbye post’ that contained an illegal DDOS attack? That one?
I don’t think anyone trusts a word they say without legitimate evidence. The user has been shown to act unethical and make things up.
And somehow I knew that was gonna be the response *shrug*.
Online people constantly do this, it’s joked about since it’s a real thing that ALWAYS happen. If you think Lemmy users are innocent this singular time, is there some Bridges for you to buy.
You keep insisting we show good faith to a person who has shown themselves to be deceptive and a vandal.
You’re either an enabler or a fool.
Or the guy himself on yet another alt account…
He’s on the list, yet keeps defending this chud.
Licking the boot on his own neck.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence…
If you catch me throwing rocks at you, and I yell “it was a little purple aliens fault”; would you believe me?
Hey look, you’re on the list.
broken clock and all that
Next time you get a fine for drunk driving just tell the police guy:
Somehow I knew that would be the response, you police people are all the same…
What is this adding to the conversation?
You were asked for evidence, but instead of providing them, you complained about shrugs…
shrug
You mean the homepage that tries to ddos a lemmy instance if I access it?
Yeah, no idea why I don’t want to access that page. /s
There’s posts and screengrabs about it, never said you had to go there.
I never went to the webpage and have found this out.
Well, if he’d want me to read his temper tantrum, he shouldn’t have set things up that I can only read it by seeking out screen grabs.
He doesn’t want me to read anything, for all I know.
One side of the story has evidence. I’ll listen to that side.
One side has the general internet on its side. We already know what they do.
What other evidence is needed? Any they provide would just be called fake, but the internet always does this. I don’t believe that Lemmy users would be innocent in this singular incident, that’s just foolish thinking.
There’s nothing that will meet your arbitrary standards here, but don’t go playing dumb, you just make the rest of Lemmy users looks bad with the rest of you.
This is all universal “you” for anyone involved in this drama on either side.
We have proof the guy tried to secretly censor the entire fediverse to promote a conservative agenda. We have proof they committed cyber crimes. There is a pattern of dishonest behaviour.
We don’t have ANY evidence of the death threats or doxxing beyond the claims of a man proven to be dishonest. You don’t have any, and try to hide the fact you don’t have any with a weak “you wouldn’t believe it”. The same way I tell my friends “you wouldn’t know her, she goes to a different school.”
Right now, the two possibilities are that literally everyone except you has been tricked, or you have been misled by a desperate, proven liar. Take a second to consider the possibility that, maybe, you’re wrong to trust them.
I’m not trusting THEM lol, people are told to avoid going online due to toxicity and this exact crap. And this is why I said using them was useless… you are STILL using it lmfao. Even after trying to avoid this exact conversation….
I trust the internet to do what it always does, there’s gonna be users that did it, even “jokingly”. That’s the sad unfortunate reality that we do live in. I wish we lived in your imaginary fantasy world, that would be great!
I’m “trusting” that the internet is doing what it always has and always will do, and not something totally unprecedented that it’s never done before.
Again, people are told to avoid social media because OF THIS EXACT CRAP HAPPING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND……
…But you ARE trusting them. You’re taking their word that the internet is doing horrible things to him. You forget that they are ALSO on the internet, and capable of lying to discredit the consequences of their own actions. You are ALSO on the internet, and a part of the toxicity you rail against.
Take your hands off the keyboard, put them on your lap, take a deep breath, and audibly say the words “it is possible I am wrong about this.”
You keep taking the word of a proven liar over people with actual evidence.
You’re either a fool or support this guy’s actions.
Yes, there are lots of whiny moralists around who think being civil and avoiding difficult topics and turning the fediverse into some sort of curated PG friendly space is the best solution. Preferably with government ID checking built in.
Never played poker.
What?
You mean the one they baited for maximum draw to try and DDOS?
Why do people so often assume total pricks are telling the truth? I doubt anyone here is cheering on death threats/doxxing. I find it hard to believe they actually happened. He provided zero evidence of it.
Eh there’s always that one guy that does shit like this, unfortunately. I’m not saying it is true but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Maybe it did happen, but admiral Patrick did nothing to convince us and given the whole issue surrounds him secretly doing shit, I’m less inclined to believe it.
Trusting the victims and healthy scepticism are always at odds with each other, but in this case AdmiralPatrick has already been caught in bad faith arguments before where others have had receipts and he had nothing.
It wouldn’t entirely suprise me if some nutcase actually did send him some death threat, but in this instance I’m not going to just take his word for it.
I don’t take the word of proven cyber criminals over their victims, as is the case here. If he provided proof, I would, but he didn’t.
The response to the illegal actions then are between the Tesseract dev and law enforcement.
“Was being doxxed” or whatever other claims were made, are not, and never will be, legal justification for starting a cyber attack on anybody.
Someone needs to press charges for law enforcement to do anything or even get involved. And to press charges you need to be “involved” or have been affected.
And that person is gonna get called to court and have their history exposed, courts don’t like people who aggravate others than go and waste courts time with charges.
Lawyers get disbarred for that crap, it’s illegal itself.
You can’t provoke someone in to shooting you than press charges, that’s what this would be like.
lol, you’re even wrong about this part.
Law enforcement can do things and get involved any time they’re aware a crime has occurred. ‘Press charges’ is a nonsense term with no actual legal meaning. What they might need is for someone to report the crime and make them aware of it. But once they’re aware of it, it’s their choice whether they want to investigate or prosecute anything.
And anyone can report a crime. You don’t have to be involved or affiliated.
That depends entirely on what you mean by “provoke”. The only time you can ever shoot someone and not go to jail for it is if you can prove it was self defense, and the threshold to prove self defense can be extremely high, depending on jurisdiction.
And for every other type of offence, doing something illegal in response to someone doing something illegal to you just means you both go to jail. “He did it first!” never even worked in grade school, not sure why you expect it to work as an adult.
Tagged you as “ai simp” a while ago. Seems like you’re full of shitty takes. Also… “Than go…” lol
Than Go was the guy who painted sunflowers, right?
Sounds like a Vietnamese name. Or Thai maybe.
Because the law is always on the side of free speech, especially when it contradicts the government.
https://dictionary.justia.com/subversion
The people who “started it” started what exactly? All he gave were vague claims of xenophobia and hate.
Well, yeah, people who done that should also be investigated. How does this contradicts slazer2au’s point?
I never said it did? I just said Lemmy users should look at themselves first, they did illegal shit first.
Or are you taking my response to quokka and attributing that to my first response to slayer? Because that’s not the same discussion. So don’t take that out of context.
“Lemmy users” is pretty vague.
Unless you are accusing the specific users you’re replying to of the crimes you’re bringing up, what’s the point of responding to them?
I didn’t do any of the things you’re bringing up. Why would a response asking “lemmy users too look at themselves” be relevant to me?
Does the concept of “context” not exist to you?
Specific topics don’t need to specified when it’s contextual conversation.
That’s what this is, you’re of course free to take it wrongly and interpret that way.
You’re whataboutisming along the lines of “you should think about you’ve done first” to people who probably aren’t even the ones who did the things you’re bringing up.
You’re not commenting to add that people were dicks to the tesseract dev, too.
You’re commenting that people were dicks to the tesseract dev first, and pushing everything that putting it that way implies.