I think AI won’t save us here, our base is broken. The internet is kind of shattered, most of the pages on the wild have broken and even wrong links. Divs doings the work of buttons, the semantics are totally lost. This, at least for me, feels like a good view point on what we can fix first, and with luck have a better internet.

All feedback is welcome.

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    8 hours ago

    not a web dev. If I did want to make some minimal fast loading pages that don’t look awful, is there a decent framework out there that will do the styling? A bit of html is fine but learning CSS is just not on my to do list.

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      6 hours ago

      Saying you want to make a web page without learning css is like saying you want to play basketball without shooting hoops. Learn CSS.

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      7 hours ago

      HTMX is pretty good. It gives you markup that extends HTML for things like async loading, and incorporates some features that you’d otherwise have to do using Javascript or CSS.

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        My “to go” tool of the day is Alpine.js, fills a similar void, but the focus is on the client side, the botton idea is the same.

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      Not sure what you mean with loading pages, but maybe you should look into classless CSS for a minimal look. One of my favorites is Water.css when I just want to have something other than the browser default HTML styling, but there are many more.

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      Depends on how much do you want to tradeoff on this.

      The “easiest” way will always incur in some extra files, or unused shite. When I started, Bootstrap were the only acceptable thing, yesterday were Tailwind, and soon will be “what the AI spits on your face”…

      So, a custom styling will always be “best options”, but this depends on your level of understanding on the web, and if CSS isn’t on your bucket list, leave for the ones that have this on the bucket list.

      (Sorry for not having a silver bullet for this)