I think what a lot of people don’t understand is that the dip in revenue is tolerable because they’ve run the numbers on the data they have and found that this move makes them more money in the long run. Unless you are willing to find a new hobby, there will always be a game you will compromise on if you have these sort of values, and millions of people that just don’t care enough.
You also have to remember this is how they define reality as well. Corporations may well be more durable than governments at certain levels of revenue. Try to recall all the things that you took as being eternal eg the Internet if you are gen z. These things were new at the time but you lived your life as though they always existed.
Now look at how the younger generations will grow into this new gaming paradigm with those who remember current times complaining as they ramble about back in their day etc etc. The new generations will roll their eyes as they go to buy the limited edition pre order collectors editions discs because the disc will become a status symbol.
Not to mention if everything goes their way we will be streaming games. Can’t be cannibalising this new revenue stream by selling physical disks that let people play without accessing the network and giving us data. In sure there are more plans but I haven’t gone researching anything.
I don’t have the answers, but we will all have to keep fighting the good fight against corporate rent seeking in all its forms. At least those of us that are aware enough. But we have to accept we won’t be making a difference as to how the world works, just living in accordance with our values.
Unless you are willing to find a new hobby, there will always be a game you will compromise on if you have these sort of values, and millions of people that just don’t care enough.
Sure. A few games here and there built upon decades of investment. Not every single AAA game ever. I don’t think it will be sustainable for any attempts to make new IPs or anything that isn’t already making hundreds of millions per year.
I don’t have the answers
Probably indies for a lot of enthusiasts who aren’t stuck in a specific AAA moat.
ultimately the target audience of the video game industry is children and they’ll keep making obscene hypermonetized games that get fifth graders hooked. Only thing we can do is not buy them ourselves and protect our own loved ones from them. But yeah i mean idk i wish our government would have better policies but there’s a long list of great government evils to cure at the moment before we start worrying about gacha games and whatever newer techniques for ripping off people with videogames.
Another thing I’d like to highlight is the data hoarder/old internet style “you can take my local games from my cold, dead hands” talk.
…Well. If 90% of the market ends up game streaming, that’s what the vast majority of game devs will target, even indies. There will be no more local games for you to buy. There will be no desktop gaming GPUs to replace the one that dies. Heck, I bet the internet itself gets locked down in the future.
I see this attitude e on Lemmy and some other corners of the internet, along the lines of “who cares what the masses do? We never needed them.” Like we can go back to the usenet days when the internet was a niche.
That’s a nice thought.
But they’re taking what critical mass holds up for granted.
I don’t have a solution, either.
People, in aggregate, seem to always pick convenience over principle/long term health, when it comes to tech stuff.
Well. If 90% of the market ends up game streaming, that’s what the vast majority of game devs will target, even indies.
That kind of marketshare implies that Steam gives up the idea of local games. And if that happens we’ve already lost the fight. I don’t think it’ll go that far for a very long time.
Besides, developers still need hardware to develop games. So the idea of them ceasing to make consumer GPUs seem far fetched. They are needed for a lot more than just playing the biggest games.
Like we can go back to the usenet days when the internet was a niche.
Well we’re here aren’t we? It’s not the 90’s, but we also came here because we refused to let adslop become our future of forums and disusccion. We don’t need 90% adoption to foster a community. If we could get to .1% we’d already be in a very good place.
There will be no desktop gaming GPUs to replace the one that dies.
unless you make them, i guess i would emphasize our personal skill development in tech as a people as the ultimate guarantor of our rights to own things personally. While some government policies are worse than others, no government solution can ever be a guarantee.
Yeah, but what if those people started to suffer the consequences of games being streamed and not being able to own the games and buy the games that they play.
More and more people will suffer the consequences of games being streamed, and the consequences of being unable to buy and own their games
Our worst fears: unable to own anything and being unhappy
I think what a lot of people don’t understand is that the dip in revenue is tolerable because they’ve run the numbers on the data they have and found that this move makes them more money in the long run. Unless you are willing to find a new hobby, there will always be a game you will compromise on if you have these sort of values, and millions of people that just don’t care enough.
You also have to remember this is how they define reality as well. Corporations may well be more durable than governments at certain levels of revenue. Try to recall all the things that you took as being eternal eg the Internet if you are gen z. These things were new at the time but you lived your life as though they always existed.
Now look at how the younger generations will grow into this new gaming paradigm with those who remember current times complaining as they ramble about back in their day etc etc. The new generations will roll their eyes as they go to buy the limited edition pre order collectors editions discs because the disc will become a status symbol.
Not to mention if everything goes their way we will be streaming games. Can’t be cannibalising this new revenue stream by selling physical disks that let people play without accessing the network and giving us data. In sure there are more plans but I haven’t gone researching anything.
I don’t have the answers, but we will all have to keep fighting the good fight against corporate rent seeking in all its forms. At least those of us that are aware enough. But we have to accept we won’t be making a difference as to how the world works, just living in accordance with our values.
Sure. A few games here and there built upon decades of investment. Not every single AAA game ever. I don’t think it will be sustainable for any attempts to make new IPs or anything that isn’t already making hundreds of millions per year.
Probably indies for a lot of enthusiasts who aren’t stuck in a specific AAA moat.
ultimately the target audience of the video game industry is children and they’ll keep making obscene hypermonetized games that get fifth graders hooked. Only thing we can do is not buy them ourselves and protect our own loved ones from them. But yeah i mean idk i wish our government would have better policies but there’s a long list of great government evils to cure at the moment before we start worrying about gacha games and whatever newer techniques for ripping off people with videogames.
This unfortunately. But what if there are consequences for streaming games? If games are being streamed then they can’t be owned
This is what we fear: owning nothing and being unhappy and unable to do anything about it
+1
Another thing I’d like to highlight is the data hoarder/old internet style “you can take my local games from my cold, dead hands” talk.
…Well. If 90% of the market ends up game streaming, that’s what the vast majority of game devs will target, even indies. There will be no more local games for you to buy. There will be no desktop gaming GPUs to replace the one that dies. Heck, I bet the internet itself gets locked down in the future.
I see this attitude e on Lemmy and some other corners of the internet, along the lines of “who cares what the masses do? We never needed them.” Like we can go back to the usenet days when the internet was a niche.
That’s a nice thought.
But they’re taking what critical mass holds up for granted.
I don’t have a solution, either.
People, in aggregate, seem to always pick convenience over principle/long term health, when it comes to tech stuff.
That kind of marketshare implies that Steam gives up the idea of local games. And if that happens we’ve already lost the fight. I don’t think it’ll go that far for a very long time.
Besides, developers still need hardware to develop games. So the idea of them ceasing to make consumer GPUs seem far fetched. They are needed for a lot more than just playing the biggest games.
Well we’re here aren’t we? It’s not the 90’s, but we also came here because we refused to let adslop become our future of forums and disusccion. We don’t need 90% adoption to foster a community. If we could get to .1% we’d already be in a very good place.
unless you make them, i guess i would emphasize our personal skill development in tech as a people as the ultimate guarantor of our rights to own things personally. While some government policies are worse than others, no government solution can ever be a guarantee.
…You think a modern GPU can be crowdsourced?
I mean. You could. Hardware hackers have. But it wouldn’t resemble anything remotely like our desktops now.
Yeah, but what if those people started to suffer the consequences of games being streamed and not being able to own the games and buy the games that they play.
More and more people will suffer the consequences of games being streamed, and the consequences of being unable to buy and own their games
Our worst fears: unable to own anything and being unhappy
That’s what I mean!
There’s no hiding from this or just “ignoring stupid people who stream games.” It is going to catch everyone, one way or another.
Yeah, but at least everyone will suffer the consequences and eventually people will get sick of being unable to own their games
One day the tides will again turn, but will eventually turn in our favor