• DahGangalang@infosec.pub
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    In the Captain America movie, US President gets turned into a hulk and wrecks some junk (and maybe screws up some other stuff, maybe commits war crimes? Idk, I just watched some summary videos). The message is that none of that really matters; patriotism and loyalty to your leadership is important and so we should look past all that. The message is that that’s not enough of a reason for the death penalty / extra judiciously killing the guy; sending him to prison and respecting the justice system is important, regardless of who the accused is / what they’ve done. (Edited in light of response indicating I got the story wrong).

    In Superman, a major plot point is a tacitly abstracted Israel/Gaza conflict. Superman continues to delay/obstruct the invasion by kidnapping the leader of parallel Israel, taking him to the middle of the desert, and dropping him from crazy high (and catching him before he hits the ground) to get him to back down.

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      You also got the Superman summary wrong because Hawkgirl does drop the guy from the sky at the end and it’s made very clear that no one catches him. He dies. Superman doesn’t drop-and-catch him, just pins him to a cactus. That doesn’t stop him, which is why Hawkgirl later flies in, points out she’s not Superman when the guy gloats that she won’t do shit to him, and then she cracks his egg.

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      And when that doesn’t get him to clean up his act, Hawkgirl does the same thing… minus the catching. Hawkgirl doesn’t give a shit.

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      What? Brave New World ends with Captain America putting the president in jail. I have no idea what would make you think the movie promotes an “obey no matter what” policy. That you would even suggest that it does leads me to suspect that you’re not being entirely honest here. There’s a difference between shitposting and flat-out disinformation.

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        23 hours ago

        Like I said, I didn’t actually watch the new Captain America movie, just some summary videos. That was my takeaway from those. I’ll edit my comment to better reflect that they jail the President in the end.

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          Hopefully this has been instructive in how you can’t trust the Internet, especially YouTube/TikTok. Since from your perspective I am also an anonymous Internet rando, I suggest that you distrust what I have claimed too, and see for yourself by looking up the movie’s wikipedia article or some other source that’s more trustworthy than an anonymous Internet rando. It’s important to develop that habit - to verify things for yourself, and to figure out which sources you can rely on.

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      I didn’t see the movie, but if someone is dropped from hundreds of meters, then catched before he hits the ground, the instant deceleration has the same effect of hitting the ground, no?

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        Same as iron man hitting the ground (landing or falling, no difference). Inside his suit would be mush.

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        Superman is weird; flying around at supersonic speeds would also cause some severe abrasions and likely suffocation, but supes drags Lois around all over the world in comics. Iirc, canonically he has some intrinsic powers, like a forcefield to protect passengers in flight, telekinetic abilities that work in tandem with physical touch to prevent him from ripping through things accidentally, and apparently the ability to prevent damage when catching things at terminal velocity.

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        It’s being caught logic.

        Hitting cement and decelerating over 0.001 meters? Instant death.

        Hitting heroes arms and decelerating over 0.01 meters? Totally fine, no injuries, good to head back to work or whatever.