I have no issues with Lineage, or Graphene, the enshitification is all Google and the shady “app” shilelrs who are after your data linking everything to Google Play Services which is a fucking plague.
Android is fine, Google has gone form “Don’t be Evil” to “How can we be more evil?” and needs to be purged from all devices.
Heck, I just demanded a data deletion of an account that was a legal adult because they demanded a copy of my driver’s license to watch a music video on YouTube.
Funny that doesn’t happen when I send a bot to scrape the webm file, without the spammy annoying AI generated ads playing constantly, and run ffmpeg on it to give me a proper offline copy of said video.
Nothing Google does is needed, they are a “convenience” that is only popular because it si free and already installed on everything. Kinda like Windows, no?
It’s the kernel. For starters, Linux is a kernel. I don’t understand your point, the people running the Linux ecosystem (the corpos injecting money in the infrastructure and participating in the governance through the Linux Foundation) don’t care about user ownership. NVIDIA is a bad collaborator but it’s still allowed to do the shit they do. As other nonfree contributors on drivers.
But let’s suppose an open and universal implementation standard of ARM and modem drivers was enforced? We’d have hundreds of viable Linux phones already. The battle wouldn’t be pretty but the alternative would be the current shitty state of affairs.
Linux distros are free to choose which standard libraries and toolsets they use. Android has chosen not to use the standard GNU coreutils or glibc, they instead use toybox and bionic.
There are other distros that use for example musl and busybox over glibc and coreutils. Ubuntu is also looking to replace coreutils with a new rust version that isn’t copyleft. There are also multiple init systems out there so you can’t say that systemd must be used to consider something a Linux distro. Etc.
I’m wondering, what exactly about Android doesn’t count as a Linux distro to you?
Android’s bs has nothing to do with it using linux.
I agree, I meant being Linux didn’t stop the enshittification of Andriod.
I have no issues with Lineage, or Graphene, the enshitification is all Google and the shady “app” shilelrs who are after your data linking everything to Google Play Services which is a fucking plague.
Android is fine, Google has gone form “Don’t be Evil” to “How can we be more evil?” and needs to be purged from all devices.
Heck, I just demanded a data deletion of an account that was a legal adult because they demanded a copy of my driver’s license to watch a music video on YouTube.
Funny that doesn’t happen when I send a bot to scrape the webm file, without the spammy annoying AI generated ads playing constantly, and run ffmpeg on it to give me a proper offline copy of said video.
Nothing Google does is needed, they are a “convenience” that is only popular because it si free and already installed on everything. Kinda like Windows, no?
Except that it’s not “linux” like an actual open source linux distro is. There is no parallel here.
Also, a negative example shouldn’t make you go “oh I guess there’s no hope then, let’s embrace the death of ownership”.
It’s the kernel. For starters, Linux is a kernel. I don’t understand your point, the people running the Linux ecosystem (the corpos injecting money in the infrastructure and participating in the governance through the Linux Foundation) don’t care about user ownership. NVIDIA is a bad collaborator but it’s still allowed to do the shit they do. As other nonfree contributors on drivers.
But let’s suppose an open and universal implementation standard of ARM and modem drivers was enforced? We’d have hundreds of viable Linux phones already. The battle wouldn’t be pretty but the alternative would be the current shitty state of affairs.
Android IS an open source Linux distro.
It’s all the software that’s added to Android that’s proprietary. Binary blobs for Qualcomm chips, Google Play services, etc.
It’s not. It uses a linux kernel but the architecture is completely different.
That’s literally what makes it a Linux distro… It uses the Linux kernel.
Linux distros are free to choose which standard libraries and toolsets they use. Android has chosen not to use the standard GNU coreutils or glibc, they instead use toybox and bionic.
There are other distros that use for example musl and busybox over glibc and coreutils. Ubuntu is also looking to replace coreutils with a new rust version that isn’t copyleft. There are also multiple init systems out there so you can’t say that systemd must be used to consider something a Linux distro. Etc.
I’m wondering, what exactly about Android doesn’t count as a Linux distro to you?