To the contrary, you have to entirely ignore the role of western propaganda to credibly believe everything the west says about a country they committed genocide against, and disbelieve everything said country has said about itself.
There are no “concentration camps.” The DPRK has prisons, sure, as do all countries.
Defector testemony is notoriously unreliable. Defectors are discriminated against in the workplace, and as such most turn to spinning tall tales to make a living. Speaking positively about the DPRK is illegal in the ROK and is punishable, as is returning to the DPRK, despite a good number of defectors wishing to return to their homeland.
“Human rights groups” are often heavily western influenced, and as such western biases plague reporting. Famine did exist during the 90s and early 2000s when the USSR dissolved and massive flooding ruined farming for years in the DPRK. These days, however, food is far more stable, and rural areas are seeing priority in development through the 20x10 policy.
You don’t really have a leg to stand on here, you are trusting the empire that committed genocide against Korea to be truthful about Korea.
Trolling? I’m a communist, what I say is consistent with what Marxist-Leninists believe to be true. Again, citing Amnesty USA as evidence against the DPRK is ridiculous chauvanism. Would you exclusively cite Israeli sources on Palestine?
Regarding famine in particular, the overwhelming consensus is that it was driven by genocidal destruction of agriculture by the US Empire, the dissolution of their largest trading partner, and mass flooding in the 90s, which is why their food security is getting better.
The DPRK has prisons. Allegations that it has “concentration camps” are projection at best. Same with “human rights abuses.”
No idea what you’re getting at regarding the 1930s Soviet famine.
Either way, “democratic socialism” is just social democracy without self awareness. Reform is a dead end, revolution is necessary, and socialism is already democratic.
You don’t even begin to understand the horrors of the last few centuries. If you did you’d realize why Europe/The West in general lies so much and basically accuses every socialist/anti-Us country of doing cartoonishly evil things because it’s the only way Americans see a government operate; not only that but most Americans believe whatever the state department tells them about any country even though they KNOW the US lies about them.
It’s always “yeah, I know the US is bad, but I just KNOW this unprovable slop about China and the Middle East is true this time! They really did kill a bajillion protesters so we have to be involved, US has a responsibility to promote its democratic values!!!” Completely dropping the criticism they claimed before.
Most of us were you before we read some theory. If you want to understand us, the most approachable introduction would be watching a lecture by Michael Parenti on youtube or your preferred alternative, and/or reading Blackshirts and reds
How do you not get it? If reform is impossible, then democratic socialism is in practice just welfare imperialism. My “true colors” have been open for years, I’m a communist. And for what it’s worth, Marxism-Leninism is rising.
To the contrary, you have to entirely ignore the role of western propaganda to credibly believe everything the west says about a country they committed genocide against, and disbelieve everything said country has said about itself.
There are no “concentration camps.” The DPRK has prisons, sure, as do all countries.
Defector testemony is notoriously unreliable. Defectors are discriminated against in the workplace, and as such most turn to spinning tall tales to make a living. Speaking positively about the DPRK is illegal in the ROK and is punishable, as is returning to the DPRK, despite a good number of defectors wishing to return to their homeland.
“Human rights groups” are often heavily western influenced, and as such western biases plague reporting. Famine did exist during the 90s and early 2000s when the USSR dissolved and massive flooding ruined farming for years in the DPRK. These days, however, food is far more stable, and rural areas are seeing priority in development through the 20x10 policy.
You don’t really have a leg to stand on here, you are trusting the empire that committed genocide against Korea to be truthful about Korea.
Bro… you’re trolling just to discredit democratic socialism, just admit it.
Countless human rights groups are critical of the US and Israel, and have been documenting famine, conecentration camps, and human rights abuses in the DPRK for decades: https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/these-images-dont-lie-exposing-north-koreas-dirty-little-secret/
And, you forgot to mention the Holodomor in your response citing the USSR. How convenient!
Trolling? I’m a communist, what I say is consistent with what Marxist-Leninists believe to be true. Again, citing Amnesty USA as evidence against the DPRK is ridiculous chauvanism. Would you exclusively cite Israeli sources on Palestine?
Regarding famine in particular, the overwhelming consensus is that it was driven by genocidal destruction of agriculture by the US Empire, the dissolution of their largest trading partner, and mass flooding in the 90s, which is why their food security is getting better.
The DPRK has prisons. Allegations that it has “concentration camps” are projection at best. Same with “human rights abuses.”
No idea what you’re getting at regarding the 1930s Soviet famine.
Either way, “democratic socialism” is just social democracy without self awareness. Reform is a dead end, revolution is necessary, and socialism is already democratic.
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You don’t even begin to understand the horrors of the last few centuries. If you did you’d realize why Europe/The West in general lies so much and basically accuses every socialist/anti-Us country of doing cartoonishly evil things because it’s the only way Americans see a government operate; not only that but most Americans believe whatever the state department tells them about any country even though they KNOW the US lies about them.
It’s always “yeah, I know the US is bad, but I just KNOW this unprovable slop about China and the Middle East is true this time! They really did kill a bajillion protesters so we have to be involved, US has a responsibility to promote its democratic values!!!” Completely dropping the criticism they claimed before.
We can see your colour just fine, it’s red blood from a scratched liberal, a fascist.
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Most of us were you before we read some theory. If you want to understand us, the most approachable introduction would be watching a lecture by Michael Parenti on youtube or your preferred alternative, and/or reading Blackshirts and reds
How do you not get it? If reform is impossible, then democratic socialism is in practice just welfare imperialism. My “true colors” have been open for years, I’m a communist. And for what it’s worth, Marxism-Leninism is rising.