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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world ·
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Can't believe its been 2 weeks since I posted communist ragebait

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Can't believe its been 2 weeks since I posted communist ragebait

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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world ·
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  • macniel@feddit.org
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    And how many due to capitalism? EVERY DAY?

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      But have you considered scary black book of communism?

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        “the claims that Courtois made in the book’s introduction were not even accepted by all of his own contributors.”

        The figure encompasses the number of Vietnamese casualties resulting from armed conflict with the US.

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          As the historian Ronald Aronson pointed out, even if Margolin did not cite the figure of one million victims of Vietnamese Communism invented by Courtois in the introduction, at no point in his chapter on Communism in Asia did he mention that the US intervention in Vietnam had cost, according to some estimates, up to three million lives.

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        never heard of it :)

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          altr

          • macniel@feddit.org
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            Oh no. not again.

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              Again as many times as it has to.

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      Idk, seems like a lot of food/aid gets delivered places.

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        Which is a bare minimum to treating the symptoms of capitalism. So that means nothing, while the world fucking burns due to to insatiable wealth pisser.

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          What would work better on a 8 billion multinational people scale? While still affording individual national cultures and freedom of expression.

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            I love you, Chippy. <3

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              • Pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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                nice wombat.

                • Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.worldOP
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                  That’s a photo of Jiri Procházka holding me.

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                    beautiful.

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            18 hours ago

            Communism

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              Source?

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      capitalism being a system that promotes the accumulation of wealth / power by few to exert over many? So like… nature? Yeah, that would be everyone.

      Everyone that has ever died ever is due to capitalism. :)

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        Capitalism is not human nature.

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          what is capitalism?

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            Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production.

            There are special subdivisions with certain extra features, but the bare bones definition is just that.

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              Isn’t private ownership kind of an extension of territorialism which is present in many species? Makes you think, huh?

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                No? Private ownership began to dominate society after feudalism. Turtles aren’t compelling others to labor for them through capital ownership.

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                  hey cowbee. How’s it going?

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                    Decent, busy.

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                No, not really.

                Because if you do think about it, you would realize that a wide variety of species shows a wide variety of different behaviours. Which in turn means that all these opposing ways of behaviour are indeed natural, but not necessary natural for humans, as they are contradictory to each other. Or if you want to follow your proposed line of thought to the logical end, I await your proof of human males attaching to the much bigger female and atrophying to a simple ball of sacks for insemination as angler fishes are proven to do.

                Or to make the point even more direct: the whole concept of laws to give or take ownership is in itself so counter to all other animals behaviour that it is ludicrous to try and argue any part of that is in any kind of way natural. Or by definition of ‘humans as animals’ would mean any political system we adopt is natural by design.

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                  Or by definition of ‘humans as animals’ would mean any political system we adopt is natural by design.

                  Took you long enough

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            THIS IS CAPITALISM?

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              Anything you don’t like is capitalism. You can even apply it to your feelings and bodily ailments. “I’ve been feeling horribly capitalism today after my knee went all capitalism.”

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                this is lowercase

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                  thanks

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        So like… nature?

        we are a societal race, that thrives on empathy and community.

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          social animals, yes.

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            yes, as I said.

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        Capitalism as a mode of production is only a few hundred years old. It’s essentially a mode of production where private ownership is the principal aspect of the economy, and capital owners control the state. Before capitalism was feudalism, and before feudalism came slave societies, and before those came tribal communalism.

        Human nature is incredibly malleable and depends most upon how we produce and distribute, how we live and how our environment shapes us.

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          how is it different if you substitute economic capital with political capital?

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            I mean the means of production and distribution.

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              ok but why is it different if those that control these things accumulated economic capital or if they accumulated political capital?

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                I don’t see what you mean. The means of production and who own them are both political and economic inherently.

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                  Yes, they are. Then you do see.

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