• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    I think it’s valid to point out that the majority of people that lived in the Soviet Union regret its fall, and that a good reason for that is the much better social safety nets that existed under socialism.

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        Really? Cause I know a couple who don’t. They were born during a forty year period of martial law and anticommunist terror where even expressing the desire for people to have their needs met could get you thrown in a concentration camp or disappeared into the jungle.

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          I also know people that lived through my country’s fascist period and seemingly “things were better back then”…

          These anecdotal evidences mean little, you’ll find someone with the opposing opinion or experience.

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            You’re right, data is king. So what does the data say about the opinions people who lived through those times? Oh right, you’ve already dismissed that as “old people missing their childhoods”.

            Of course, if they were saying the opposite, that communism was awful and capitalism was better, you would have no trouble taking them at their word.

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        Sure. But if you listen to what people who lived in the Soviet Union have to say, they very clearly reference the more robust system, the pride they had as workers, and the high valuation on science and humanity. These aren’t mere nostalgic platitudes, they were lived reality for hundreds of millions of workers. That’s a valid feeling.

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          You’ll also find people talking about the food lines and the rationing, the envy of western abundance, the countless crackdowns on freedom and liberties, the famines, etc…

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            Lol you will not, because this is a cartoon list of Commie Shit from someone who has never looked into any of it. Lol cmon man “crackdown on freedom and liberties”? Really? You sound like an animatronic of JFK.

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            Call me woke, but I think feeding the people is a good thing. The capitalist alternative is just letting hungry people starve. Many did envy western trinkets, but when said abundance was built on imperialism, rather than the workers in the west, it’s not exactly a sustainable practice. Looking above, the woman is reminiscing on free apartments and education. The advanced social safety net under socialism increased freedom and liberties, creating far more individual autonomy. No idea what you mean by famine, the soviets eradicated famine and for those who lived in the socialist bloc, famine is out of living memory.