I wasn’t sure where to post this, but it seems like Tildes is pretty much dead now. This is why decentralized is the only possible good future.
Hopefully all the users move to Lemmy/PieFed/Mbin
This is the full text of the post. I don’t take it to mean “dead”, as that isn’t the opposite of growing. Despite what venture capitalists want people to think.
It is interesting to see that Deimos thinks the failed. I think that speaks more to his aspirations of what tildes could be, not a disparagement of the current community.
I will always remember tildes as the first reddit alternative I actually liked; that wasn’t an alt-right clone. Deimos showed it was possible, and the threadiverse picked up the baton and is still running further.
I’ve been assuming that this is fairly apparent since nothing significant has changed here in years now, but I suppose it’s best to be explicit.
There is no intention to do anything like:
- Actively attempt to attract more users
- Implement new functionality or change existing functionality
- Change the site’s structure
- Give any other people access to moderation/admin abilities or control of the site
Or anything else of a similar level. The site has basically been in “minimum maintenance mode” for a long time, and I do not plan to start investing more time in it or otherwise trying to reinvigorate or reinvent it. I recognize that a lot of information and documentation on the site does not reflect this, but almost all of it was written aspirationally nearly 10 years ago, and those aspirations failed. To be clear, I definitely don’t consider Tildes a failure—I’m proud and happy that we were able to create a small community that people (mostly) like being a part of. I enjoyed building it, and it’s great that the community has managed to sustain itself for so long, but it’s not the same as the goal that most of that writing had in mind. I should remove or update a lot of it, but there are very few new users and almost everyone here already knows how things work.
I’m certainly happy to continue keeping Tildes running while people want to keep hanging out here, but you should only do that if you are satisfied with the state of the site. If you are unhappy with Tildes’ current functionality, structure, design, userbase, culture, or any other major aspect, you should probably look for a different community (or start one, anyone can!). You should not pin your hopes on any major changes happening here.
This is a weird thread to share this in, but whatever. I’m working on an alternative platform based on At Protocol, it’s called https://caterpilla.rs/
Still early days, haven’t open sourced it (yet), but plan to. Just a fun side project for me.
I liked tildes, i just liked the fediverse more.
Tildes tended to have long, serious discussions. The fediverse had oneninetysix.
There’s probably people that still use tildes regularly and like the vibes. It’s good to have choice, and small to medium social websites existing alongside each other.
I liked Tildes.
Then I got temp-banned for suggesting that hitting Nazis with your car is fine.
That was the last time I used Tildes.
Sorry D. My family has a deep tradition of fighting Nazis and anyone who tells me I shouldn’t, it a Nazi apologizer.
It’s basically another tradition for reddit clones to surreptitiously setup beachheads for nazis. The ultimate effect of that is the site kills itself before it can ever become popular.
I’ve seen this pattern enough over the years. Reddit is the only OG that managed to succeed in spite of welcoming nazis.
Now that “hiding your power level” isn’t a thing anymore, they can’t help but run openly amok, which drives people away. They stayed in their own festering corners of reddit until 2016.
What do you say after running them over?
Tap for joke
“They did nazi that coming”
I can understand explicit calls to violence being disallowed. As happy I’d be if all Nazis just didn’t wake up one day, we don’t need vigilantes going around deciding who to commit attempted murder against
Vigilantes are welcome to fight Nazis. Full stop.
You know, that is a fair take. It’s easy to pass judgment, but less easy to trust that everyone else would pass the same judgment on the same people you do.
The longer it takes for the justice system to do anything useful the more it feels like that’s exactly what we need.
The biggest problem is that the Nazis will use that excuse too.
Sure, but if the law doesn’t stop them then somebody else is going to have to anyway.
Please, do not murder nazis. They are not in any position of power. If you meet one of them in isolation, try to talk with them and understand their reasons, then explain your ideas.
If you meet a group of them, have a beer with them and have a chat.
If you meet a group of them attempting to perpetrate violence, call to your network of contacts, organize immediately and beat the shit out of them.
Nazi’s inherently don’t adhere to the social contract. Do not run the nazi bar. A seen nazi is a punched Nazi on sight.
Complete disagree.
Displaying nazi imagery is a choice. A choice that should only be met with immediate violence lest they learn that it is ok.
As you can see from my message above, I’m not completely against violence.
But if that’s the way you conduct your life, I’m afraid you’ll soon end up in jail.
If that is not the case then you either never see nazis, which is not so common these days, or you’re speaking empty words.
I had those kind of confrontations which end up in people picking up sticks and taking out knives with congregations of neofascists in order to protect the integrity of places, in periods in which those were being targeted and it was quite common to hear someone from your circle of friends had gotten murdered while getting back home.
What are you talking about?
I’m talking about Tildes. And how they temp banned me for suggesting that violence against nazis in public is justified.
It’s English. It goes from left to right, one word at a time. In this forum, messages are left underneath each other, suggesting the order in which they were made.
You can read them up above, if you use your eyes. Where you said I should take nazis out for a drink. Do you know what a bar that serves nazis is called? A nazi bar.
You are talking about tildes, I am sure. You were complaining because you were banned for suggesting killing Nazi people.
I did not reply regarding tilde itself: I have never used the service. Either way, the ban makes sense to me: do not suggest killing people.
I gave advice on how to handle situations and on how a situation when you meet a Nazi may be handled. You may disagree with me on that, that is fine.
But I doubt you go around killing Nazis with your car very often.
Do you know what a bar that serves nazis is called? A nazi bar.
No. Just a normal bar. At this point to be fair I don’t even know what you’re referring to as Nazi. There are neonazists in several countries indeed, I guess you refer to those.
Those are people who live their lives, they have a terrible ideology in their mind. Starting to violently attack them for no reason would lead them to get more defensive, closed and ready to fight.
Having a chat with them and reasoning about their problems may lead to some of them opening up.
That does not mean you should not defend yourself need should come, as I said I had experience with that.
From your reply I read you do not have much experience with this. If you do not, do not go around telling people to hit people with their car. If you do, why the hell are you telling people to hit Nazis with their car?
First time I’ve even heard of it
It was dead on arrival, and they made sure it never became anything more than that by gate keeping.
I’ve been a member for years and I check it maybe once a month because nothing of note ever happens there so it’s not worth my time.
Tildes killed itself.
Shoot, I forgot all about Tildes until this post. I had an account and even kicked in to support them. Got sidetracked by The Outside and Lemmy and just never went back. I wonder if my account still works…LOL, it does! I’m back on Tildes! lol …eh…maybe I’ll go to The Outside instead…
Tell them to join Lemmy lol, now seems like a good time for them
Lol, well I just spent a few minutes browsing and reading a thread or two. The Riviera Kid isn’t far off: There isn’t a ton happening there. But, with that said, the discussions being had in those threads seem pretty involved. I don’t see much of the old reddit (and sometimes on Lemmy now) low-value insipid posts like: “This!” or “Came here to say that!” There are fairly long, multi-paragraph, drawn-out conversations with some thoughtful replies. I skimmed over a few as they were long and I am not invested in the topic (at this juncture). But it is interesting to see some cerebral discussions without the random silly stuff. Mind you, I do enjoy the silly stuff too. Ergo why I am here. Viva la Lemmy!
Sadly theres nothing there to see or do.
It’s always strange to me that software can never be complete or mature, it’s straight from ‘getting new features’ to ‘dead’. Not picking on the comment in OP, the announcement post reads like that too mostly. I get software requires some level of maintenance, but I wish we treated feature-complete as a good thing, something to celebrate.
Anyway, it was also weird to me how Tildes didn’t seize the moment with the Reddit drama a couple years ago. As I recall, they just weren’t trying to be the target of that migration. That was the first time I’d heard of it. Seems a nice place, from all my impressions of it.
When I left reddit, I asked for accounts on both tildes and kbin. Except tildes was onboarding people in batches, so I’d been active on kbin for like a week before I could create my tildes account, and I just never got momentum over there because of it
There can be security issues though. And I think it sounds like it won’t be growing from here, for social media that means it probably won’t take long to shrink a lot. If the current feature set and UX didn’t attract a huge userbase, then keeping it the same certainly won’t help.
If it was an offline video game or software then it would be different.
Security issues for sure, that’s what I mean to acknowledge by saying it takes some level of maintenance.
But like, the feature set and UX don’t have to keep improving forever, IMO. The draw of something like this should be the community, the humans you interact with.
