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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Socialism@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 month ago

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Socialism@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 month ago
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  • Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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      The Soviet Union indeed had a famine in the 1930s. Is your point that it was deliberate? That’s a popular theory among fascists and used to be popular among liberal historians, but opening the Soviet archives proved the socialists correct, that it was largely caused by weather disaster and some degree of mismanagement. It was also the last famine outside of World War II in the Soviet Union, because by the time of the famine’s end agriculture had been successfully collectivized.

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          Famines were extremely common in both Tsarist Russia and feudal China. Their respective famines in the beginning were ended because they developed out of that underdeveloped form of agriculture. This is not difficult to understand. Why compare the Soviet Union and PRC to capitalist countries, when we should be comparing them to their former selves?

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              No, what’s toxic is comparing countries with wildly different circumstances and prior levels of development without properly contextualizing. The famines were not caused by communism, nor mismanagement. The famines were caused by a combination of weather disaster and dramatic underdevelopment of agriculture, which is why both regions commonly had famine before, and why both countries had these as their last famines outside wartime, as they industrialized.

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          Jeez, you had me until “NGO.”

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              You do know bigger NGOs receiver government funding, beholding them to said government?

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                  Not all NGOs are bad; NED, HRW, AI are problematic.

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