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    Blame covid for the first drop, and blame LLM for keeping it there right now

    PISA data show that students who use AI for specific schoolwork tasks, such as summarising texts, drafting or conducting research, attain lower scores in science than students who do not use AI. In these scenarios, students who do not use AI outperform those who do, on average, by around 20 points – equivalent to being around one year of schooling ahead of their peers

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    Maybe changing education institutions from being knowledge acquisition environments into employment indoctrination factories was a poor decision.

    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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    While the decline certainly steepens around 2020 during the COVID pandemic, the general decline begins around 2012… just as smartphones were finding ubiquity and social media started enshitifying.

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      How is it that science held so much steadier than reading and math? I would have thought you needed skills in both for science related testing. I don’t doubt these results, I’m just curious how that happens.

      R: oops, meant for this to be a top level reply

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    ~30 point dive is pretty damn drastic. In under 10 years of time? And it’s not even starting to level out?.. we’re fucked, yea?

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      More like got fucked. Can’t have well informed and educated young people can we. How else will the corrupt get elected.

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    Social media turning user-hostile after 2010, then alt-right actively targeting kids with disinformation from shortly after, and then finally COVID in 2020 as what could have probably been a final nail on its own

    Now they’ve got AI letting some of them take an easy route that skips learning whilst also breeding apathy in the others who wonder what the labour market is going to look like when they try to get jobs.

    The kids never really stood a chance, really did they

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      The crash started years before COVID. And it doesn’t look like that significantly impacted the curve.

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        That is just an artifact of how the lines are drawn in that chart. There was a test in 2018 and another one in 2022. The extrapolation between those two points is purely artistic and not backed by any data. The more logical assumption is that this is indeed a result of the school lock-downs in 2020 and after.

        Or it is Greta’s fault for starting the school strike in August 2018 /s

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          You’re right, I should have looked closer at the chart. It still didn’t start the decline though. It may have impacted the rate of decline, but the decline started in 2012 - 2015.

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            Doesn’t look like that to me. If the 2022 and 2025 points would be up around 500 again the earlier slight decline would look like statistical noise only.

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              Mathematics dropped in 2012 and 2015, leveled off then continued to drop. Reading and science both dropped in 2015 and 2018 and continued to fall after that. So it is a consistent drop across a subjects prior to COVID.

              It doesn’t make any sense to say that if the data was different you could interpret it differently. The drop started prior to COVID and dropped over multiple years of testing.

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                The “drop” we are talking about is something like 505 to 495 or around 2%. That is well with in measurement variability I would say.

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                  Ignoring the trend just to fit it to the COVID timeline doesn’t make sense. The data doesn’t match that. If you’re going to ignore consistent drops across all subjects over multiple testing cycles then there is no point in looking at the data at all. COVID was detrimental to a lot of things but it is not the source of every problem.

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    That’s right kids, you’re stupid! … just like our generation was told when I was your age and our parents’ generation, etc … just look, the data!